This May sound like an odd question, but does anyone know if there is a t/c that mounts up to the t-19 tranny that has a front output that is located on the drivers side??? From all of the pictures I see the Dana 20 has the front output on the passenger side. I have a project that I am working on and would like to use my ih304 engine that I have, the problem is that there is a Dana 60 front axle that has a drivers side drive shaft. Any suggestions short of replacing the already rebuilt front axle??
T-19 Tranny and D20 T/C ???
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Scoutboy74
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What's the vehicle platform? Jeep and IH d20's are passenger drop. Early Bronco d20's are driver drop, but they have a standard 6 bolt pattern for mating to the trans as opposed to the reverse texas pattern of the IH d20. So you'd have to source an adapter (if one exists) or a trans that would mate up with the eb d20, but then the bellhousing bolt pattern of that trans wouldn't mate to your IH 304. Even if you got all that sorted out, wouldn't you have to punch some kind of gaping hole in the floor to accommodate the opposite side t-case lever? I think so. Again, this depends on what vehicle we're talking about. The d-60 axle tubes could be chopped, sleeved and swapped to relocate the pumpkin to the passenger side, but this requires advanced fabrication skills in order to turn out a safe and durable unit. You'd probably be time, money, and frustration ahead in the long run to just sell your current fa and source one with a passenger pumpkin instead.
Thanks for the info. I already spoke with advance adaptors and there is not an easy solution if I am going to use the existing axle that I have. In fact it is just a ton more work than replacing the front axles as you mentioned. The project is a Jeep that my son bought and it came with a 351 windsor, c6 tranny and a NP205 t/c. I just found out that the motor is spent and I was trying to use my rebuilt ih304 and see how I can make a t-19 close tranny marry up to the NP205 t/c that I have. If it was simple then that would take care of my engine problem and the front driveshaft issue all at once. As I have found on this project that nothing is ever simple!
Scoutboy74
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Given that additional info, it sounds like the easiest solution would be to source a running sbf engine then?
Probably true, but most will have some sort of high mileage and then I will be inclined to tear it down and rebuild it anyway. If I find one already done then they are big $$. Since I already have this ih304 that is totaly rebuilt and they are great motors, I am leaning more to using that. Plus I was not to kean on the idea of having my son driving around at 17 in a Jeep with an engine that is pushing about 370hp. For me it would be fun, but with him I am not sure I would get much sleep at night. A plus to the 304 is that it should get much better mpg for him as well. As you can see I am talking myself into the 304. My fist car was a 77 traveler with the 345 and I just love the durability of the IH motors.
Scoutboy74
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You won't find much argument against your valid points from anyone on this forum. Someone did a lot of wheel reinventing on that Jeep to get those components installed and you will have to reinvent in a different direction to get the IH power in there, but it can be done.
Mark Ashford
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You can get an adapter for the back of a t-19 that allows a "6-bolt round" patten, then you could use any one of the many later-model, driver's drop t-cases.
Of if your not married the a manual, take and IH 727 auto and have it rebuild with the Jeep or dodge 6-bolt round adapter then again, any one of the later t-cases. That would be the easiest (well the Ford motor would be the easiest, but you've already discussed that).
Or trade the front Ford front 60 for a dodge or Chevy unit. Or re-tube it (I'd trade before retube if your going for easy).
Oooh, or run the d20 passenger drop, cut off the front output and plate the case. Then run a driver's drop, divorce mount 205 behind it and you got a doubler. Either a short shaft or a shared u-joint (heard of it being done both ways). No comment on the [potential] Durability, but another solution....
Of if your not married the a manual, take and IH 727 auto and have it rebuild with the Jeep or dodge 6-bolt round adapter then again, any one of the later t-cases. That would be the easiest (well the Ford motor would be the easiest, but you've already discussed that).
Or trade the front Ford front 60 for a dodge or Chevy unit. Or re-tube it (I'd trade before retube if your going for easy).
Oooh, or run the d20 passenger drop, cut off the front output and plate the case. Then run a driver's drop, divorce mount 205 behind it and you got a doubler. Either a short shaft or a shared u-joint (heard of it being done both ways). No comment on the [potential] Durability, but another solution....