Rumor has it.....

Vhat, vhat did you say? And what May I ask was the buying price? :sosp: sounds like another crushers trip is in order once that baby is put in!:gringrin:
 
I got a whole truck that has a d60 in it:

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It will be a while before it is built and installed in my Scout. I have way too much to do right now.
 
Nice score....

Thats what I'll be looking for once I get back on my feet $$$ wise for my next binder project.
 
Anything less than $1000 is a pretty good deal and I suspect it was alot Lower than that! :dita:

every decent Dana 60 deal I know of in the last few years has come with the whole truck just like chris's deal.
 
Ok kidz...ya know I'm slow on the uptake much of the time and several of ya have tol me guud shit before....

But let's try again...what is the primo version of any chevwhatever donor axles for d60 front/rear or even d70? I'm talkin' for IH shit install only not sum kinda sears string trimmer or montgomery ward gas grill. What do I need to be on the lookout for and what exact applications? I know the old fart needs ta pay tension to gears and all, but sumtime ya take what ya kin take. And right now I gotta source for this schnizz that I need ta take advantage of before it goes away.

Gimme a prioritized listkidz!
 
michael mayben said:
ok kidz...ya know I'm slow on the uptake much of the time and several of ya have tol me guud shit before....

But let's try again...what is the primo version of any chevwhatever donor axles for d60 front/rear or even d70? I'm talkin' for IH shit install only not sum kinda sears string trimmer or montgomery ward gas grill. What do I need to be on the lookout for and what exact applications? I know the old fart needs ta pay tension to gears and all, but sumtime ya take what ya kin take. And right now I gotta source for this schnizz that I need ta take advantage of before it goes away.

Gimme a prioritized listkidz!
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I'll take a front Dana 60 out of a Chevy or dodge. Gearing does not matter because most of your 60's came with 4.10's or lower. Some diesel rigs came with 3.73's.
 
michael mayben said:
ok kidz...ya know I'm slow on the uptake much of the time and several of ya have tol me guud shit before....

But let's try again...what is the primo version of any chevwhatever donor axles for d60 front/rear or even d70? I'm talkin' for IH shit install only not sum kinda sears string trimmer or montgomery ward gas grill. What do I need to be on the lookout for and what exact applications? I know the old fart needs ta pay tension to gears and all, but sumtime ya take what ya kin take. And right now I gotta source for this schnizz that I need ta take advantage of before it goes away.

Gimme a prioritized listkidz!
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The only difference in chev Dana 60f's are srw or drw, and gears, the dodge's have several variants including the Dana 61, the best! Dodge to get your hands on is a '91-'93, they use the internal spline locking hubs that chivy and ferd use, any thing earlier uses the eight bolt/stud external style locking hubs, they are an acceptable alternative, at some time in the early years of dodgedom they used a thiner rotor, why I never figured out?, the later use the same as the chivys, in '94 dodge went from leaf spring to that 5 link coil setup, they also went to a "unit" type bearing hub, long side disconnect axle balljoints (vs king pins) and a driver side drop, these axles are only suitable for stock replacement applications.
For a rear axle I got a Dana 70 out of a '79 f350.

I could use one myself, by $$$price$$$!!!! And availability it seems to be getting farther away every day!???, I have a Dana 70f, the only thing that's holding me back on running that is the 6 lug hubs! If it had the 8 lug hubs I'd run it!

I May remember more later?
 
I'm no axle expert, but isn't a d-61 a goofy axle? It takes special gears or something? My 91 dodge had one with 3.07 gears, iirr 3.07 were all that were made for it. Maybe I'm thinkin of something else?

Nice score, chris.

I'll take one or two also, michael!
 
michael mayben said:
ok kidz...ya know I'm slow on the uptake much of the time and several of ya have tol me guud shit before....

But let's try again...what is the primo version of any chevwhatever donor axles for d60 front/rear or even d70? I'm talkin' for IH shit install only not sum kinda sears string trimmer or montgomery ward gas grill. What do I need to be on the lookout for and what exact applications? I know the old fart needs ta pay tension to gears and all, but sumtime ya take what ya kin take. And right now I gotta source for this schnizz that I need ta take advantage of before it goes away.

Gimme a prioritized listkidz!
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Well I for one am looking for a 60 front for the new t-ette. I'm in no hurry and don't have to have one but it sure would be sweet under there.
 
If there's any interest in a IH d60 rear with 4.10 gears, I might know sumbudee who knows sumbudee...hijack over.
 
I'm looking atta source that has recurring common axles available of a recurring common nature....onna regular basis, at a reasonable buy-in for typical titeazz ihpersona.

That's why I'm asking for exact recommendations based upon what's best for IH apps. I ain't lookin' for singles or boneyard stuff (though of course, parted out vehicles are the source for what I'm looking at).

And just a few days ago, one of our own hadda strange issue regarding what is supposed to be inna d60 drive axle vs. What was actually installed by Dana spicer in the axle when shipped to the light duty assembly line back in the day. Come to find out, this issue flies in the face of common wisdom and is not something that can be determined by "spec" or bom, only by actual teardown.
 
Warning:

do not accept anything without disk brakes! You'd be a fool to waste time doing an axle swap to end up with drum brakes. Some of d44 front axles list below are drum brake models -- if you will be converting the knuckles out to something with disks - by all means get it. If not leave it for somebody else.


The best front axle swaps for IH application are:


for scouts:
Jeep wagoneer d44 axles 1974-1974

Chevy d44 fronts 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton applications 1969-1978 (the early years will use a smaller u-joint but all else is the same, generally speaking. And the later models will be hit or miss with corp 10 bolts mixed in, gmc used d44's later than Chevy badged trucks, go figure??)

dodge d44's - they will work in a pinch but they are not as common so spares are harder to come by. And the spring perch width is a lot wider than Scout width...

for fullsize IH's:
Chevy d44 fronts 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton applications pickups, blazers, suburbans 1969-1978 (the early years will use a smaller u-joint but all else in the sames, generally speaking. And the later models will be hit or miss with corp 10 bolts mixed in, gmc used d44's later than Chevy badged trucks, go figure??)


all the d60's have disk brakes.
Chevy d60 all have internal hubs:
1977-87 k30 1 ton 4wd (standard 1-ton pickup)
1984-88 cucv (military 1-ton pickup)
1988-91.5 v30 (newish body style pickup right before they went ifs on the 1-tons)

dodge d60:
1975-89 heavy 3/4 tons (diesels) and 1-tons (will have external locking hubs or drive flanges)
1990-93 heavy 3/4 tons (diesels) and 1-tons (will have internal locking hubs)
 
major screwup said:
I'm no axle expert, but isn't a d-61 a goofy axle? It takes special gears or something? My 91 dodge had one with 3.07 gears, iirr 3.07 were all that were made for it. Maybe I'm thinkin of something else?
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Yes! They do use there own gear sets, I'm not sure if they have the 3:07 ratio? But they do have 3:54's and 4:11's
 
goldie locks said:
yes! They do use there own gear sets, I'm not sure if they have the 3:07 ratio? But they do have 3:54's and 4:11's
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All cut and pasted from 'the internets'


the 61 is a heavier axle than a d60, but the gear choices are limited without a spacer. It's a 60 with the pinion moved over about .40" to allow for up to 3.07 ratios. (d60 will only take 3.55's) they also increased the tube diameter, and added some bracing -- so the inner "c" off a regular 60 will not fit on a 61 and vise versa...

You can run 3.07, 3.54, 3.73 and 4.10 gears on the stock d61 carrier - but you'd have to get the special d61 gears.

Or! Get the ring gear spacer from reider racing and go with regular d60 gears and a regular d60 carrier:

here is the setup:

1 use the Dana 60 carrier matching the 60 gears you will run
2 install a 0.404 inch thick spacer between the gear and carrier
3 all the bearings and shims are interchangeable from 60 and 61
 
chris pucci said:
the 61 is a heavier axle than a d60, they increased the tube diameter, and added some bracing -- so the inner "c" off a regular 60 will not fit on a 61 and vise versa...
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Interesting?, the dodge Dana 61 we have at work appears no different than a standard Dana 60????
If I get time I'll measure it.
 
I got over into the storage barn today and did some measure'n on them 60's, they both have a 3 1/8" tube diameter and the points at which I measured the yolks they showed no differances either, the gears might maybe be stronger but the housings are the same.
 
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