my engine just quit,

Bondvagabond

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Hello, I posted this question on my build thread, but scoutboy74 was kind enough to inform me I would get more help if I posted it here.

Scout is 76 terra 2wd 4spd 304 2210 carb gold box icm(believe this makes it a holly distributor) sat for 10 years after developed a pop that previous owner thought was valve work needed. I fixed two dime sized holes in the muffler and pop is gone.
I've got maybe 10hours of drive time on a rebuilt carb/new to me gas tank/fuel lines blown out with air. Truck runs great with no flat spots/stumbles. Feels as peppy as my 76 Bronco with mild built 302. New cap and rotor, 10 year old wires, new plugsno timeing or carb idle adjusting yet. It sounds like my idle is probably high

truck has failed to start/quit a total of 3 times
first, it had sat for a week, went to fire it up, cranked it over almost a whole batteries worth of juice(in small increments to not fry starter) and no firing. Didn't have time to fiddle with it that day, so just went and pulled the linkage to insure I had a good gas to carb which I did.

Next day have more time, go to fiddle with it, figure I will check and see if she will fire before I tear into it. It fires right up. Without even recharging the battery with my charger.

Next fail, drive about 20min out to my parents farm, half way up bumpy driveway, and it dies, no sputter like with a fuel system issue, just engine off like a switch. I go to make sure my brother doesn't have to get the tractor past for a bit, come back 5 min later, again decide to try to fire it up before messing with it. Fires right up. Drive it a short way, fill up with boxes from recent move, drive to another part of the farm do same, drive 20min home, no problem.

Third time, doing the same lap pick up boxes from parents barn, come back towards our house, stop at a few garage sales on the way so several stop and start cycles. Last one go to start it up, click click click. No engine turn over. Try a few more times and finally she fires right up.

Sometimes my engine will crank slower or faster when I click on the starter. Have new oversize battery, new negative cable, new terminal on pos bat cable end, all battery cable connections cleaned up shiny and new.

Take the gold box into napa to have tested, guy says tested it three times and came up good, it was slightly warm to the touch when I got it back, guy says he likes to do 3x testing to help get them warm enough to simulate real world conditions, but no way is it as hot as real life.

Let me know if you need any other info. Thanks again for any advice, this site has been very helpful to me.
 
I venture to say you have an electrical connection going bad. Your sitch duplicates exactly to the tee a problem I had a couple of years ago with my 800. I found that the ignition switch was going bad. I am no way saying that is your dilemma; but you have air, fuel, but the fire seems to come and go.

It could be the positive side, or it could be a bad ground. I'd start off with engine grounds, battery ground, the bulkhead connectors, and then the switch. Exchanging parts should only come about after all the connection points are verified.
 
exchanging parts should only come about after all the connection points are verified.

I agree completely, I should have mentioned that I was planning on going to a points distributor in the long run anyway, because they are supposed to do better after an emp attack (I'm one of those tinfoil hat guys :)

since I had an ulterior motive for the swap, this would be a rare instance where swapping parts diagnostically would be okay with me.

It is funny that you should mention the ignition switch being the culprit in your case, mine binds a bit, I should take it all apart and clean it up. I think I remember there being a post on how to adjust them, I will have to go see if I can find it.

Thanks again for the advice.
 
emp attack

Another believer!:ihih:

I fully expect a solar one, and with all the elektronik toys, compooters, and gadgets that run my life and the equipment I take care of; life as I know it now May change in a blink of an eye.

Don't fer a second think points will save you, test starfish (or star fish) prime in 1962 stopped cars in their tracks in hawaii. I picked that from some article I read years ago in popular science or the smithsonian. It sure got the military scrambling to get air force one emp proofed.
 
Yup, but its much cheaper easier to have a spare set of points in a faraday box than a whole new ignition system in a faraday box :)

from what I've read, that is what gets fried in a points ignition system.
 
Cheaper to have a extra set of point's handy? Yes in a way.few years ago I got an extra set at napa,and they were $17.00.used to be able to get em for $3-4 a set.Jeff:icon_rolleyes:
 
Hey greg r, do you try to emp proof your Scout completely? If so what all have you done to it? Generator and wire wound voltage regulator? I'd be interested to know.
 
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