Motor oil for 1971 1110 pickup

Qasimkhan

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My grandpa's 1971 International 1110 pickup has been used only rarely over the last two decades. It still runs, but it uses a LOT of oil. I took it to a shop, and the mechanic told me that it has problems with the oil rings and that it needs a complete engine overhaul. But he also said there might be a lot of carbon buildup on the rings and that driving it regularly might improve that.

I don't know the last time the oil was changed. What weight oil should I use? Filter? Additive(s)?

(I've read the threads about engine oil on this forum, but it was hard to get a clear answer. I'm used to working on my 2005 BMW 325, but this pickup is a whole different beast. Any help would be most appreciated!)
 
No Fram oil filters for sure. Wix 51515 or Baldwin B2 are both excellent filters. At minimum you should run a diesel rated motor oil...YES I SAID DIESEL!!! in 15W-40 flavor. The reason for a diesel oil is simple. These engines are old school flat tappet technology. Conventional motor oils of yesteryear used to contain a sufficient percentage of a component known as ZDDP. You can google those letters for hours of education on the topic. In a dumbed down nutshell, ZDDP is a vital, sacrificial lubricant layer that old school flat tappet engines require to prevent premature camshaft failure. Due to a host of reasons that I won't get into here, modern conventional oils have been all but completely deprived of that ZDDP as a means of supposedly protecting catalytic converters from premature failure in more modern vehicles. Diesel rated oil is not harmful to vintage gasoline engines. They like it just fine. Like it, hell, they love it. The diesel rated oil still has a sufficient quantity of ZDDP to keep your ancient camshaft happy. If you want to go next level, IHPA sells a premium oil blend from Swepco. I won't kid you...it isn't cheap, plus there's shipping involved, but if money is no object, you can't really do any better than Swepco oil.
 
Thanks, Scoutboy! That was really helpful. Just one question - would you use the 15W-40 diesel formulation instead of a 10W-30 diesel motor oil? Or am I opening a can of worms here?
 
If you want to make sure you get the correct oil and filter for your truck, we sell both here at IH Parts America. The 15w40 weight will be good enough. In the meantime, before you drain the existing oil in your engine, add a quart of ATF and drive it for 100-200 miles. Although it may not solve your problem, the ATF will help clear out some of that old carbon and crud from the engine.
Swepco engine Oil
Baldwin Engine Oil Filter for IH V8 Engine
 
Thanks everyone! This was all really helpful information. Glad that I could tap into your knowledge. I'm sure I'll have more questions in the future.
 
it uses a LOT of oil. I took it to a shop, and the mechanic told me that it has problems with the oil rings and that it needs a complete engine overhaul.
Lots of possibilities, and I can't argue with a guy who could actually lay his hands on it...but...in MY driveway, I'd be looking at the PCV system (is there oil in the PCV hose? Does the crankcase vent properly without building-up pressure in the crankcase?) I'd look for external leaks (rear main seal? Oil pressure sending unit/switch leaking? Valve covers, timing cover seal, etc. Pull a valve cover (or two) and see if the oil-drainback holes have sludged-over.)

I'd probably cram a set of valve stem seals in place, and while the valve springs were off, I'd check the valve-to-guide clearance by wiggling the valves in the guides. This has to be done with supreme caution and the piston at the top of it's stroke, or you drop a valve into the cylinder which means the head comes off. Seals are inexpensive, can make a big difference. Labor-intensive, though. And if the guides are wiped, the seals won't last long--it really needs a complete valve job in that case.


But he also said there might be a lot of carbon buildup on the rings and that driving it regularly might improve that.
Possible. I've used oil-additive detergents on engines years ago. My limited experience was that dissolving the carbon/sludge made for increased oil consumption, not reduced. But that was a long time ago, maybe things are different now.

I don't know the last time the oil was changed. What weight oil should I use? Filter? Additive(s)?

(I've read the threads about engine oil on this forum, but it was hard to get a clear answer. I'm used to working on my 2005 BMW 325, but this pickup is a whole different beast. Any help would be most appreciated!)
Problems with ZDDP ("Zink" or "Zinc") as an additive in oil has been greatly exaggerated. Aftermarket cam companies were sourcing cheap-junk lifters from China; and when they failed they blamed the oil instead of their own greed/faulty parts. Yes, ZDDP levels were reduced in most motor oils; and yes, ZDDP is a "High-pressure" additive. But stock valve springs don't put much pressure on lifters/cam lobes; the lifter diameter of the SV engines is exceptionally large so the loading is unusually light. Oil contamination is a bigger problem than the reduced (it's not eliminated, just reduced) "ZDDP" levels; and that goes right back to out-of-tune engines, and carburetors that don't have properly-functioning chokes and metering circuits, sinking floats, etc. Faulty PCV systems don't remove moisture or volitile gasoline components from the crankcase.

ZDDP becomes WAY more critical when valve spring pressures increase. And ZDDP is not the only high-pressure lube that can be put into oil, it's just an inexpensive one and therefore popular.

Baldwin or Wix filters would be my preference; and whatever weight of oil is specified in the owner's manual. "Diesel" motor oil is generally dual-rated for Compression (Diesel) AND Spark-ignition engines...but so-called "Diesel" oil has very high detergent to remove soot from diesel combustion--which tends to remove the ZDDP layer building-up on the moving parts. It's a balance--more ZDDP to promote a sacrificial film on parts, but high detergent acting to remove that film. In your case, sounds like the engine could use some extra detergent in the oil, so "diesel" oil may be a good choice.
 
All this was very helpful advice. I've switched to diesel engine oil and put a quart of ATF fluid in the oil. I've driven the pickup about 80 miles since then, and it's smoking a lot less and using less oil, although still too much. And it's running smoother.

My next steps are to degrease the engine, replace the PCV valve, and see where the oil leaks are. If I could get the oil usage/leakage down to a reasonable level, I hope to avoid a complete valve job.

I've been working on the pickup in my spare time, so I haven't made progress as quickly as I had hoped.
 
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