Help needed with starting my scout

Badger

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I have a Scout 80 152ci I ran it most of last winter and it didnt give me many problems.

This is what I experienced week start. Batt is new...and a grinding sound the last to times it started....oil lvl fine... I drove it home once again lacking power and performance.... Parked it next day wouldn't start... I have no key its a push button and a master....now all that happens is I hear my buzz from the inline fuel pump but my starter doesn't engage when I depress start. It makes one pitch then a lower pitch like a load sound.....so I switched out the starter+ selinoid we did everything to get it to turn over and still it wont engage were lost at this point... I am still a noob and I am trying to learn so if u have any ideas please help me out.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0090.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0093.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0093.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0088.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0087.jpg


And the engine still turns free by hand... I feel its and electrical problem I cant find.

- rob
 
I have a Scout 80 152ci I ran it most of last winter and it didnt give me many problems.

This is what I experienced week start. Batt is new...and a grinding sound the last to times it started....oil lvl fine... I drove it home once again lacking power and performance.... Parked it next day wouldn't start... I have no key its a push button and a master....now all that happens is I hear my buzz from the inline fuel pump but my starter doesn't engage when I depress start. It makes one pitch then a lower pitch like a load sound.....so I switched out the starter+ selinoid we did everything to get it to turn over and still it wont engage were lost at this point... I am still a noob and I am trying to learn so if u have any ideas please help me out.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0090.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0093.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0093.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0088.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/falcon_ats/img_0087.jpg


And the engine still turns free by hand... I feel its and electrical problem I cant find.

- rob also I try ed jumping it seams like the gear in the starter isn't meshing or the celinoid inst engaging the tooth to the gear is it possible I have the wrong starter?
 
Double check all your battery cables, especialy the negative, they need to be clean and tight with good contact, metal to metal.
 
Have you tried bypassing the ignition and jumping from the battery directly to the solenoid? Be sure you're not in gear! What's with that cock-eyed battery orientation? Aren't they supposed to be fully upright?
 
have you tried bypassing the ignition and jumping from the battery directly to the solenoid? Be sure you're not in gear! What's with that cock-eyed battery orientation? Aren't they supposed to be fully upright?

( yeah but it was the safest spot and its a gel cell bat tec I suppose it could be sideways . Hasnt given me any issues.



And im starting to think I have the wrong starter its slightly diffrent... The terminal that grounds the solenoid to the starter is a spacer closer than the orginal.... I got it from IH only I hope they didnt mix it up
 
Hard to tell from the pics. Can't see what's now occupying the original battery location preventing you from utilizing it now. That would be the safest location. The fact that you have a remote push button starter in place is a major red flag. Any time another component is introduced into the equation, means one more opportunity for incorrect wiring. I don't believe IH only would sell you a starter that wouldn't work for your application. If that turns out the case, they'll no doubt make it right. My question to you is, did you take any steps to diagnose this issue before you plopped down the bucks for a new starter, or did you just jump to the conclusion that it must be the starter? What I'm suggesting is there's a good chance this issue lies elsewhere in the voltage stream and still has nothing to do with the starter.
 
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