Dealer Only Pickup???

[61hawk]

I recently had the opportunity to purchase what I think was a 1968 IH 1000c pickup that the seller was saying that it was a "dealer only" truck that was offered one per dealership for their salesmen to use. I haven't been able to find out much about it but did take some pictures of it. It had a short bed, bucket seats, the biggest engine they put in them (I think) and an automatic transmission. It seems to be a highly optioned truck for it's time.

Any information or help you can provide on this truck would be appreciated. The guy was asking $2000 for it. I May be back to look at it again in September if it's still available.

Thanks,

lee

Editted to add one missing picture.

 

[Scoutboy74]

Welcome to the forum. I moved your post to a more appropriate section as the previous one is meant for questions about products sold by IH Parts America. The most definitive information about this or any light line vehicle would be contained in the line setting ticket, which is the build sheet for the vehicle. All installed equipment and selected options, as well as the build date and destination would be contained on this document. A copy of this ticket was included with every ll vehicle IH produced and could be found in a variety of locations. I've seen them taped to the a-pillar on the passenger side, taped to the backside of the glove box, and taped to the firewall cowl. Few of them survive on vehicles that have not been cared for and have been exposed to the elements such as this example. Fortunately, original microfilms of nearly all the tickets are in existence, so reproductions can be ordered from several sources. I do not know if ihon is one of them. At any rate, without the ticket or other official documentation, all you're left with is unsubstantiated speculation. This truck May or May not have been a dealer only vehicle. That was a common practice at the time. I don't know that validation of this in and of itself would make this truck more valuable than one that was similarly equipped, purchased outright, and in similar current condition. I'm not a certified appraiser, but in my humble opinion, the asking price of this vehicle seems quite high for the condition it is in. However, I do think the truck is worthy of restoration for the right beginning price.

 

[ihpartschad]

I agree with trever, the price seems a bit steep for the condition. However it does appear complete, it is obviously either special ordered truck or as you say a dealer only item. I further agree with trever in that this for sure should be restored and saved regardless if it is a dealer only or not. It is very rare to see one that complete, with that many options, and what appears to be minimal rust/damage. Talk the guy down and go for it!!

Edit: as far as line setting tickets go, best bet is to order direct from our friends @ Super Scout Specialists. Please just tell them we referred you.

 

[61hawk]

Thanks for moving this to a more appropriate location. I'm not familiar with IH products (more of a studebaker guy), I'm not even sure it's a 1968 model. What would you value a truck in this condition at? I don't think the engine is stuck but don't know if it runs. There is no rust other than the surface rust you see. No holes, damage, or previous repairs. I passed the first time because I didn't now enough about what I would be buying and also thought the price was high. I was thinking more in the $800 range, but don't know if that would be fair or low considering the options this truck has.

 

[jeff campbell]

You're about right on the price,maybe a lil steep.thats the 1st c model I've seen with bucket seats,most of them came w/factory bench seat,unless it was ordered w/buckets.if you wanted something extra,"you ordered it". And I also don't believe there's such a thing as a " dealer special" they were all special when ordered.unless the dealer got a good deal on 1 with maybe a few miles on it,from previous dealers driving it? Who know 's exact,I'd ask my gpa,but he's long gone.I do know that IH would offer the dealer's special's on some truck's that sat long at the factory.they had to,to move em out.my gpa had at least 3 salesmen that I can remember as a kid hanging out at the d-ship,an they all drove a ihc,it was given to them as long as they worked there an sold truck's! Jeff

 

[Scoutboy74]

I think you're fairly close on the year. I'm more familiar with the next generation (d-series '69-'75) versions, so I can't tell you exactly. Since it isn't my money we're talking about spending, I'd be comfortable around the 1k Mark give or take a couple benji's. If the engine has sat in a non-rotated state for more than two years, I would not risk trying to light the fires without making significant effort to manually prime the lubrication system first. Dry cam bearings can be wiped in as little as one rotation. I would do no more than apply just enough pressure by hand with a breaker bar on the front hub bolt to see the beginning of movement. That should be enough to indicate whether it is seized or not. The auto trans will be a borg warner model, similar but not identical to the Ford fmx. I would expect to pull it down for complete overhaul as a matter of course unless the truck has been driven recently.

 

[Bill Bennett]

Those headlight surrounds and running lights on the front fenders were only used on the 1968 'c' body trucks. The 'id' plate indicates the motor is the 304. That horn button is different. It May indicate the special model designation. Get the line set ticket so you know what the story is on the truck.
I think the asking price is a bit high as well. Other than the IH sticker on the cowl, different horn button and bucket seats, it looks like the standard light duty (1000 series) pickup with the torsion bar front setup. After sitting for as long as it appears to have set, it will take a 'lot' of effort to be roadworthy again.
You better have deep pockets for this project!
Bill 68 Travelall 304

 

[Scooter]

Welcome to the wonderfull world of IH life. I too think $2k is a bit steep. Even more so steep if it hasn't been driven in a long while. Any left over fuel May have eaten away and corroded in the fuel system - inside the tank, fuel lines, and the carb. The body does look fairly straight though.

Among my fleet of various stages of scouts, I have a 51 studebaker r5 truck

 

[MarkO]

Nice truck but not $2k nice.

It has a lot of potential.

In regards to being a special, since ihc rarely made any "spe'c" vehicles like the big 3, every ihc truck was a special order.

If you could find it anywhere and had enough $$$ ihc would build it in the factory the way in which you really wanted it and paint it any color or color combination under the sun.

That is why the LST is so important. Discovering what was in the truck originally can give you a better starting point when you start to fix it.

 

[hogman63]

Looks like a good candidate for restoration. Agree with the price being too high if the truck is not running. $2000 would be more in line with a running truck, but still needing repairs to be road legal.

I recently started restoration on my 63 100 series pickup. Up to this point I have spent more than $4000 on it. The big items were brakes and master cylinder, ball joints, kwik-wire kit, and tires.

The carb re-build, gas tank restoration, gas tank filler hose, radiator, and heater control valve were the minor repairs. Throw in a service manual and parts book for good measure.

It adds up fast. Fortunately there are more parts for the old binders today, than pre-internet days.at least they are easier to locate.

New ball joints alone are $150 each plus installation if your not comfortable with self install. If the truck has the torsion bar front end, your going to replace them eventually.

The borg transmission uses a modulator valve with a kick-down switch. You don't necessarily need the kick down, but if the diaphragm is leaking, the tranny will not shift properly. Only place I could find one was at a rambler parts man for $300 plus. It was a new old stock part.

I just share this to let you know part of what to expect, and give you some background to feel more comfortable to make a low offer.

The next step for my truck is pulling the windshield and taking the vent cowl off to repair the rusted out vents. After that I will start the prep work to paint it. When restored, I think it should have a retail value from $10,000-15,000. But I will never sell it because it was my Dad's truck.