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Are the calipers from a 73 Scout II Dana 44 compatible to GM? All my hardware on my current caliper are just toast maybe if I could get a bleeder screw or sumtin?
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Scoutboy74
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Bendix supplied brake systems for a great many domestic vehicles including GM. The part numbers (they are side specific) for Scout II d44 disc brake calipers cross to several early 70's chrysler vehicles and reman units are readily available from a variety of sources. New rotors are available right here from ihon. They are not identical to Ford Bronco-1/2 ton rotors. Rear drum brake service parts are readily available for the Scout II with no need to cross reference to any other vehicle.
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Michael Mayben
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Sorry for all the incorrect bullshit thrown around here by one of our most recent signups!
There were two distinct variations of disc brake systems used on Scout II in the beginning, and yours "might" be one of the oddballs, just no way to tell without pics and casting numbers off the calipers. In addition to being slightly different in external appearance, they also have different piston diameters and use different pads that don't interchange. Many of the aftermarket parts lookups do not differentiate between the two systems so if you are working with an oddball, then it's near impossible to get the right parts without some heavy-duty research!
And none of the brake systems were manufactured by "Ford", "chevrolet", "chrysler", etc. That stuff was/is all supplied by outside vendors such as bendix, kelsey hayes, lockheed, delco moraine, etc. And manufactured to a specification supplied by the oem vehicle manufacturer for a particular platform.
But...there is much interchangeability amongst some parts and peripheral hardware. An example would be the bleeder screws you mention which are certainly interchangeable if attention is paid to the same size/length/pattern, etc. Same for hoses, etc.
If all ya need is some fresh bleeder screws, then take a sample to your local full-service parts house and they will have an assortment of items to choose from.
Normally when dealing with disc brake calipers, we simply don't waste any time trying to "service" 'em. We replace with either new ones (if available) or quality remanufactured semi-loaded or loaded calipers and just bolt 'em on!
"semi-loaded" means a rebuilt caliper with no pads, you install your choice of pad sets for the application at hand. A "loaded" caliper means complete with generic friction material pads suitable for most all street/highway use.
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Michael Mayben
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Sorry for the temporary distraction!
From your pics, we can see you are dealing with the bendix-supply caliper.
So what exactly do you need to know?
Do you need replacement reconditioned caliper assemblies (loaded)? Or just replacement bleeder screws? Or you are having difficulty removing/loosening the bleeder screws?
As previously mentioned, remanufactured oem-type calipers are readily available, no need top change to some other pattern.
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I guess my question would be I got a hugh junk yard down the block and I need to know what kinda truck should I be looking out for that would match? If any..
Scoutboy74
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Well naturally amc and Ford...can't you read? Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. It takes all kinds doesn't it? I miss that doosh already. Can't we please invite him back, mod squad?
Being serious now, your brake system is one area where you really don't want to junk yard shop for parts that are readily available new or reman. It's too important. Clearly your bleeder screws are fubar, but what else?
Being serious now, your brake system is one area where you really don't want to junk yard shop for parts that are readily available new or reman. It's too important. Clearly your bleeder screws are fubar, but what else?
Michael Mayben
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Ditto trever's analysis. Do not use boneyard crap on brake systems! Most especially calipers that are rotten inside! No reason to do so.
Just snake two remanufactured loaded replacements (as in a matched set that are the same design), have the rotors turned (or replaced if not serviceable), freshen the front spindles and hub bearings as needed, clean the hub lockouts, and be done with it!
Just snake two remanufactured loaded replacements (as in a matched set that are the same design), have the rotors turned (or replaced if not serviceable), freshen the front spindles and hub bearings as needed, clean the hub lockouts, and be done with it!
Chris Pucci
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Why go to the junk yard looking for bleeder screws? They will be just as rusty and junky as yours.
Go to the parts store -- tell them you need a brake bleeder for an International Scout II caliper. They are about $2 a piece...
Raybestos part #s6858.
Despite all the 'stuff' you here - 9 times out of 10 you can walk into your local parts store give them the year make and model of your Scout and leave with the right part. This isn't rocket science and if you do have the super rare oddball oe part (I've owned 10 scouts and they have all been the same and I've never seen the 'rare' or 'wierd' stuff...) you'll find out when you get the part home and compare it to the one on your truck...
Go to the parts store -- tell them you need a brake bleeder for an International Scout II caliper. They are about $2 a piece...
Raybestos part #s6858.
Despite all the 'stuff' you here - 9 times out of 10 you can walk into your local parts store give them the year make and model of your Scout and leave with the right part. This isn't rocket science and if you do have the super rare oddball oe part (I've owned 10 scouts and they have all been the same and I've never seen the 'rare' or 'wierd' stuff...) you'll find out when you get the part home and compare it to the one on your truck...