79 Scout 2 Buildup

Thanks johnny. :thumbsup: I took a few more pictures of the engine on the stand. Was planning on tearing into the motor today, but between me getting a cold and the shop being a mess, I decided to clean up a little.
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Very true. :icon_biggrin: a clean shop seems to enable a person to work more effectively. I am hoping that once I dig into this engine I wont have to many surprises. The po claimed that he had the engine rebuilt. But that doesn't mean much, I am sure that the machine shop could of not done things correctly. Just got to cross my fingers. What would you guys suggest having a shop look at. I planned on taking the block and having it cleaned and magnafluxed. I don't really have alot of the tools yet need to rebuild a engine. What else should I have a shop do? I am going to reread some of the other guys posts. I know there are some really good ones that discuss this already. Anyways, tell me what ya guys think. :thumbsup:
 
Might as well rewire the thing while you have it all apart, wish I had done it when I had my engine pulled........most importantly perhaps is make sure you have fun with it! Be prepared to go the distance when you start pulling the motor apart, you will end up finding lots of things that will need fixing, better to do it now than later, just dont rush through it. Good luck!
 
I second ornelles, take a look at my build up. It shows what I did for my engine rebuild, the only thing it doesn't show is the headwork and that is because I did it. Just add $120-150 to the total and that should be a ballpark figure. If your gonna doit doit right. Oh yeah subtract the piston milling. I was trying to lower my compression so I can turbocharge my 304. Dont do that unless you have alot of extra money.
 
Good ideas. Thanks guys. I had already planned on rewiring the entire Scout. When I got it from the po, well lets just say it looked like a toddler had tried to rewire it. :icon_biggrin: plus the poor Scout has been sitting for awhile and the damn rats had a hay day. Excuse my language. I planned on getting either a painless wiring harness or one from iho. They both look like good kits, probably will go with the one from iho. I will take a look at your build again johnny, but write down what you did this time. Haha if I don't write it down it goes in and right back out. Anyways thanks everyone for such speedy replies and the encouragement. :thumbsup:
 
Started my tear into the engine over the weekend. Didn't get to far, my girlfriends car needed some attention, luckily nothing major. So after her car was taken care of I managed to get the intake off ( it was stuck on like someone had freakin glued it on) and the valve covers. Also pulled the exhaust manifolds which unbolted with out a single hitch. :thumbsup: I was quite suprised, it seems like you always end up breaking a bolt or two trying to get them off. Pulled the starter as well. From the look of things so far I would say that this engine is in good shape and should not require to much to get her back alive. I managed to snap a few photos as well. Hopefully I am right on my prediction and everything is in good working order. Anyways like before, give me a shout and let me know what you think. :icon_biggrin: oh and before I forget I have one question too. What do I pull next? Haha I know that seems silly but I have never disassembled an engine and I don't have the Scout service manuals. Bet those would be quite helpful.:wink5: thanks in advance.
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Actually looks good in there, if it was me, I'd pull the rocker assemblies, then pull out the lifters, one at a time, to ensure I can get them back in the same hole and check for any wear on the cam/lifter interface, also clean up the inside of the rocker's while you have them off, no point in not cleaning them out (to prevent restricted oiling later on) while you got them off.
 
Mark your push rods and lifters. If re-using they'll need to go back in the same position they came from (wear).
 
I agree with all of you guys. Thanks for the replies.:thumbsup: I actually really lucked out. I was looking around the house and discovered a really old service manual that came with the Scout when I had bought it. The pages are fragile and are trying to come out of the three ring binder that they are in. But it should get me through most of the parts that I have questions on. Scout boy 74 how would you Mark the rods and lifters? I sort of planned on drawing out the lay of everything and when I pull it out, place it according to the drawing. Would that work out? Thanks in advance. :thumbsup:
 
Ryan, I have a pretty technical trick to marking your rods that works for me. I take a small cardboard box, poke 4 holes in the left side, 4 holes in the right side, and write "front of engine" on one end. Then place my rods in the holes accordingly. I usually just stab the lifters part way in next to the rods.
 
Might want to make that 8 holes on the left side and 8 on the right. Egg cartons work good for the lifters, just make sure you Mark one end of the carton as "front of engine" (remember you have 16 lifters and 16 push rods to keep track of.):icon_biggrin:
 
Haha, yeah. Meant 8 holes per side. The last engine I did was a 4 cyl vw. I knew something wasn't clicking right when I posted 4.
 
:d. Thanks guys. I am liking the sounds of the cardboard box and egg carton idea. I will use those ideas if you guys don't mind me stealing them. :thumbsup: I might get to do some work on the engine this weekend. I also stumbled upon a 1959 Travelall that is only twenty miles from me for sale. The owner states that the drive train has been maintained very well, the lights, gauges, and heater all work. There is some body rust in the rear fenders, but up north here there always is, but the front half is in great shape. I am going to take a look at it today hopefully. If it is running reliably and the heater does work I might be buying it. I was in the market for a new car anyways. My current car has no heater, seatbelts, and isn't reliable beyond 60 miles :eek: which makes it hard to use up here in the snow. Anyways I thought I might ask you guys about some things to look for. Thanks in advance. Oh I forgot to say that it has a six cylinder engine and four speed granny tranny. This is what the post said.
 
Started the tear down again. Managed to get the rocker arm assemblies off and pulled all the pushrods and lifters out. I used your guys idea and got them in the right order. Then I start to pull the head off. As I was pulling the first side off it tangled up on the oil dipstick and pulled it out of the pan. :nonod: first thing to break in the whole tear down which isn't too bad. I will have to figure out how to get that fixed. Overall everything is looking pretty good. Push rods looked straight, nothing was out of place or fishy. At least to me. Haha. I snapped a few pictures for you guys to look at and tell me if anything jumps out to you weird. Thanks again in advance. :thumbsup:
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Well seeing as I have not been one in a while I figured I would get on and let everyone know whats been going on with this build of mine. So far I have the drive train completely removed and have become striping the truck down the rest of the way. I really have not made as much progress I would have hoped but such is life. Hopefully I get get a few more pics up soon. But even though I didn't have a operational Scout I still showed up to the binder bash that was held in clayton. Let me tell you the International community is one of the most friendly and laid back community. It was awesome. Got to check out some amazing rigs, including a awesome hand controlled Scout that was build for a wonderful gentleman. Really cool story and amazing people. Plus I met the one and only Jeff :icon_wink: and cory smith, two really cool guys.
All in all it was a awesome show with great people. Got some great ideas for my Scout build and hopefully can get back to making some progress.
 
Here is I idea I was going to run by you guys and you can tell me what you think and some of the pros and cons of it. I have my Scout torn down, took the top off, the doors and the entire front clip. I was looking at it the other day and started thinking what if I was to turn it into a four wheel drive rat rod that was still able to go off road on some easier trails. Now I know the rat rod thought is strange but here is my idea. What if I was to throw an engine in there (still unsure what I would) leave the front open, maybe build a cage around the motor for a little added insurance. I could hook the doors up, maybe weld them shut, add a roll cage and ta dah I would have a four wheel drive, four seat rat rod that is still usable off road. I don't think I would lower it at all, but leave it stock. I would leave the roof on unless it was a sunny day or I was playing at the dragstrip on Friday nights. What do you guys think. I might be a original idea.:yesnod: I love some of the scouts I have seen recently but I would like to try to come up with something unique. There are alot of unique scouts but I don't want to steal a bunch of ideas. :lol: anyways give me a shout. What do you think?
 
Ok got a little more work done. It takes me alot longer to do some of these things compared to you other guys, but I am learning on the way.:icon_wink: some the most up to date pictures and what I have done.
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The bed and a hole where the previous owner torn into the sheetmetal to get at the fuel pump or something. :icon_confused:
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So thats it for the moment. I hope to get the fuel tank out with the fuel lines and then get ready to sand blast the entire body.
 
Also if any one is needing any parts give me a shout. I will post in the parts for sale section also but I figured I will let everyone know. I dont think I will be using alot of the drive train and most of it is in good shape. Figured if I am doing a diesel swap I might as well us the rest of the original drive train from the diesel rig to simplify the build.
 
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