Terry: need link to performance site

After putting in a fair amount of research time I think that the an fittings are the superior way to go. They have the highest sealed surface volume and are superior to resealing over the sae 45% double flare.

English = bubble flair inch (45 degree)
japanese = bubble flair metric/ double flair metric (45 degree)
sae American = double flair (45 degree)
army navy (an) = single or double flair (37 degree)

I would really like to get information on advantages or disadvantages of using a double flair on an an fitting. Some things I have read say that the single flair is better for an on brake hose. Don't know myself... More research coming.
 
I've been a fan of speedway for 7-8 years - they have a ton of stuff and cheap!

As for an fittings, sure they are nice and stuff but you'll double the value of your Scout by the time it is all plumbed!!!! :yikes:
 
An fittings? Total waste except for trailer queen!

Have you ever seen a hard-plumbed hydraulic system failure of either the toob or the fitting that wasn't related to rot or some ham-handed dipshit using channelocks to make a connection?

In 50 years I haven't!

Why do you want to re-invent the brake plumbing bizz, it's too simple and cheep to just buy new stuff off the shelf that is correctly made and dot-legal! If an was "better", it would have been adopted for motor vehicle use around 1925 or so.
 
Don't get so excited kids...
The rest of the conversation involved using the braided stainless flexible lines from speedway. They are available in longer lengths and are pretty cheap. They require an an fitting at both ends. I don't think he's talking a whole system conversion. But, I could be wrong.

And that's the rest of the story....
 
Well, they have a complete an3 brake System for 149. Comes with more than I need to completely rebuild the Travelall in full an fittings. That includes 4 ss braided hoses, 18".

Or there is the equivalent kit in sae 45* Inverted flare for 99. $50 difference in the total cost of the entire Travelall project is not that big a deal. Or is it?

Now is a good time for some advisers.
 
drew merrick said:
well, they have a complete an3 brake System for 149. Comes with more than I need to completely rebuild the Travelall in full an fittings. That includes 4 ss braided hoses, 18".

Or there is the equivalent kit in sae 45* Inverted flare for 99. $50 difference in the total cost of the entire Travelall project is not that big a deal. Or is it?

Now is a good time for some advisers.
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Both accomplish the same thing and 50 bucks can be reinvested back into other parts, which will in turn get you further along in your project.
 
major screwup said:
you can buy some hard line at napa and 3 flex lines and fittings from speedway and be less than $99!
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I am going to replace the line and hose and fittings. After reviewing some other components on my system I don't see a reason to replace the existing t bulkhead fittings and mounts. I can get away from buying a complete kit and in using the existing fittings I might as well stick with the sae 45(*) stuff and resort to an adapter to sae on the an hoses.

They currently have 4 hoses for the price of 3 at $32 total.

Here is a question about hose routing. And I really don't see a difference. My front brake lines pass through the frame with a bulk head then a hose to the drums. The rear brake line terminates at a mount and bulkhead then are soft lined to the axle housing with the hard lines radiating out along the tubes and hard lined all the way to the wheel cylinder.
The question is there any reason I should change that rear design to pass along and through the frame with hoses to the cylinders instead?

Another question: would it be ok to use 3/16" line on a full drum brake setup (switching to disc in phase II of the project) instead of 1/4"
 
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