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Well, I scanned all the forums and don't seem to be coming across the answer that I am looking for; what the problem is my 66 800 has decided to take a life of its own. By that meaning, I mean that it will not turn off when you take the key out of the ignition.
Now when I place the key in turn to the right everything lights up and there is no problem. I actually even placed in a new ignition coil yesterday as well. When turning the key left and pulling the key out the motor stays on. Now I am wondering if it involves ignition/starter issues but it turns over to start fine just won't shut off. Any advice or part I May need to replace would be great knowledge also there is a new wiring harness just placed in a month ago.

Thanks for the help can-am
 
We need more information here before coming up with a solution to your issue.

1) what is the engine/transmission setup?

2) is the entire engine setup/wiring original or partially butchered by a previous owner?

3) is an aftermarket ignition system added on such as any msd, accel, mallory capacitive discharge unit?

4) did this situation just happen recently or is it something that has been going on for awhile?
 
Michael, sorry for not so detailed questions;

1) engine is a 196 4 cyl/ 4 gear manual

2) the wiring has been completely ripped out and replaced in the last two months

3) no switches at this point in time are original

4) yes, this has occurred recently, I have have tried to drive it on two different occasions

I am wondering if it is something simple as the ignition switch as it is not killing the engine but is starting not shutting off.

Thanks for the help



michael mayben said:
we need more information here before coming up with a solution to your issue.

1) what is the engine/transmission setup?

2) is the entire engine setup/wiring original or partially butchered by a previous owner?

3) is an aftermarket ignition system added on such as any msd, accel, mallory capacitive discharge unit?

4) did this situation just happen recently or is it something that has been going on for awhile?
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Ok, a complete re-wire certainly tells a story!

If...this "no shut-off" has just occurred, then something is allowing the switched b+ feed to the coil positive terminal to remain in a "closed" segment even though the key switch is turned off. Most likely is a terminal somewhere in that circuit is touching a hot b+ source do the key switch has no effect. Also, the battery should be pulled totally flat within a few hours.

The simple step would be to visually look at every point where a metallic surface is located on some component and verify that the wire terminations are properly configured and arrayed for no interference.

If this condition has existed since the entire wiring installation, then I'd look carefully at the actual ignition switch and make certain the wire connections are proper. The oem switch has what I remember are five separate connection points (0r maybe only four???). So it's very possible that the b+ feed for the coil is actually connected to the "hot" or feed side of the switch instead of the switched termination. You can use a test lamp on the back of the switch to determine the positions. For reference purposes, a typical s800 wiring schematic is contained in post #8 of this thread:

http://www.forums.IHPartsAmerica.com/electrical-tech/5408-ihc-electrical-schematic-library.html
 
Michael,

sorry it too so long to say thank you for the information, the internet has been up and down as of late along with constant hospital appointments. After analysis and trouble shooting, I have checked the ground and looked at the coil and see that there is nothing wrong with the connection, I will go and replace the ignition switch and run through the wiring.

Thanks and will keep you updated

can am


michael mayben said:
ok, a complete re-wire certainly tells a story!

If...this "no shut-off" has just occurred, then something is allowing the switched b+ feed to the coil positive terminal to remain in a "closed" segment even though the key switch is turned off. Most likely is a terminal somewhere in that circuit is touching a hot b+ source do the key switch has no effect. Also, the battery should be pulled totally flat within a few hours.

The simple step would be to visually look at every point where a metallic surface is located on some component and verify that the wire terminations are properly configured and arrayed for no interference.

If this condition has existed since the entire wiring installation, then I'd look carefully at the actual ignition switch and make certain the wire connections are proper. The oem switch has what I remember are five separate connection points (0r maybe only four???). So it's very possible that the b+ feed for the coil is actually connected to the "hot" or feed side of the switch instead of the switched termination. You can use a test lamp on the back of the switch to determine the positions. For reference purposes, a typical s800 wiring schematic is contained in post #8 of this thread:

http://www.forums.IHPartsAmerica.com/electrical-tech/5408-ihc-electrical-schematic-library.html
Click to expand...
 
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