Power Steering Fluid

Craig

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Dick I see swepco makes a power steering fluid. I guess I need some good old schooling on p.s. Fluid. I see a lot of different p.s. Fluids used by the oems today. I know in the olden days it was just clear tranny fluid. But what has changed over the years? What does the swepco fluid offer over some of the other brands.

Thanks

also can I use the swepco p.s. Fluid in a newer GM truck.
 
Hey Craig,

good to hear from you again....

The swepco 715 power steering fluid is a high quality mineral oil which is made to be a pretty-much all encompasing fluid for those units not requiring atf. It is not approved to replace honda fluids. Atf fluids, as you know are detergent type fluids wheras the 715 is a non-detergent oil. As far as the American makes, it can be used in most cars or trucks, including your GM truck. (some GM units called for atf, so check your specs for what is recommended for yours) it is purposely designed to reduce or eliminate power steering squeal, and has excellent foam resistance.

I'm attaching the product profile which covers this product for further information.

View attachment 715 Product Profile.pdf
 
Thanks for the fast response. The manual says

GM power steering fluid
(GM part no. 1052884 - 1 pint,
1050017 - 1 quart, or equivalent).

Is the lubium what makes the oil a dark purple color? Or I guess a better question would be, what color is the power steering fluid.

Thanks

Craig
 
Based on GM's site, their power steering steering fluid (as specified by your manual) is a mineral oil, so I think 715 would be fine...

For your GM pickup...

The "1970's" GM saginaw power steering used "dexron spec" transmission fluid..

My 73 t/a owner's manual specifies dexron... For the power steering.

Ihon serviced my t/a power steering system a couple months ago (new seal / drained 37 years of crud / new hoses) and my understanding is that they put swepco 714 in it.

I do not know when GM changed from dexron -- assume dexron May be "spec'ed" for all 70's / 80 Scout iis / travelers / full size, but you need to check your owner's manual to be sure.
 
I wonder if that was the clear tranny fluid stuff? I just looked in my 1971 GM pickup service manual and it says to use GM power steering fluid or atf if power steering fluid is not available.

I also looked in my IH manual and it says to use GM power steering fluid for the power steering
 
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Swepco 715 power steering / hydraulic oil is a mineral oil, it is an amber colored fluid. Purple, or any other color in oil is a dye, sometimes dyed fluids (including atf's) are dyed to match a specific category, like it used to be that atf was always red, but that is no longer the case, as now they are also bright yellow, and I've even heard of some which are green. Craig, the lubium you mentioned is a swepco additive which works synergisticly with the other additives in products it is used in, and it is used in a lot of products from greases to hydraulic oils and everything in-between. Being synergistic, it "gets more performance" out of the other additives in the product.

GM used to recommend dexron atf in their power steering boxes, but they have been off of it (I think) for some time. Actually, my personal take on it is just like a lot of other lubricant applications which is to use the right product in the right place at the right time (the 3 r's of lubrication), so when I hear of people using engine oil in their transmissions, and the likes of that, I generally am against it. I've had several GM products call for dexron atf in the power steering and switched them over to 715 without any leaks, squeals, or any other problems. - but that was my choice. I might stir up a hornets nest on that one, but like I said, it was my choice to go against the oem recommendation.

I never could figure out why atf would be recommended in the power steering system in the first place, unless it was just to keep the different types of fluids to a minimum, but that is just a guess, and in retrospect I don't think GM would purposely do that just to make things any easier for a consumer!
 
Thanks. I'm sure I could put either atf of ps fluid in the Scout or older GM pickup. But for the newer GM it would be just p.s fluid. Your making it way to simple, but I like your idea to use gear oil in gear boxes and atf in transsmission and power steering fluid in the power steering box. Now I'm kind of feeling a bit dumb for asking the question.:out:
it's not like I'm running the spec'ed 30wt in the engine either, I'm running the 15-40wt 306 oil, so it only makes sence to use the 715 for power steering applications.
 
Ok after the rallye stopped by ihon and pickup a half case of oil.

I got 3 qt of 715 power steering fluid to try out in my Scout.
I won't go down the path of what fluid the manufacture recommend, as I'm just running what Jeff sells :icon_up:

I installed my power steering cooler, which added an extra qt of fluid to the system. Since my ps also run a hydralic ram and the hydroboost brakes in addition to the ps box, it needs a nice free flowing cooler. So I order a derale 13266

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Nice work --

off topic - personally, I would find some rubber grommets to put around the cooler hoses where they go thru the front sheet metal.
 
Its a bit dark, but I used some 3/4 heater hose over the top of the power steering hoses:ihih:
 

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79 Scout II 304

hello I have read through what you guys have talked about and I have a quick question. I just did the hydroboost conversion a couple of months ago and it works fantastic! The one thing I can't seem to get rid of is steering squeal. Also when my Scout is running but at a stop the steering squeals immediately with no power to the wheels to turn (fluid levels are good). I have to get the thing rolling to get any movement. Do I need a ps cooler like pictured to combat this problem? As you can imagine parallel parking sucks!
 
Jack up the front end so the tires are off the ground and with the engine off, turn the wheels all the way to the right and left a couple times. This will help push out any air in the system.

I assume your reservoir is the highest item in the system. Air will always rise to the high point in the system. So if its level with the top of the brake master cylinder you should be ok as the fluid is about an inch below on the brake system. .

then start the truck and turn the wheels back and forth a couple more times .

lower truck and test drive it .

I just put a couple jack stand under the front axle when bleeding the system .

yes you will need some type of cooler with this type of system . any cooler is better then none.
 
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