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62international

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Hey guys, is there any way some one can post a picture of how my brake set up looks like? Ive got a sixty two Scout with the Dana 27 9 inch drums with 1.75 brakes and I need a picture of the brakes with the drum removed. I found the springs and wheel cylinders but I have no clue how the final set up looks. Thanks guys!
 
There were two completely different 9" brake systems used in the early Scout 80! Best thing is...you post a pic of yours, then I'll tell ya "which" one ya got!

And each of those systems are significantly different from each other.

Or...study this section of the parts list that has to do with the front brakes.

It is not unusual to find these brake systems have been modified to some extent using incorrect parts due to the difficulty in locating oem-design service parts.
 

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If you are going to work on your vehicle, your best bet would be to buy the IH service manual for your vehicle.

If you have a good (large) library near you, you could see if they have old motor's manuals for use as reference -- of course, you need to hope that a previous library patron has not ripped out the page(s).
 
I knew you were gonna say that one about the manual. Cant afford it right now. And as for pics of what I have, I have a backing plate. And one wheel cylinder. Napa orderd a wheel cyl but its the wrong one. The wheel cylinder I have says "wagner lockheed" the part number is pretty muck illegable I can see the last 3 numbers.. 228. Possibly 7228 or 1228.
 
Any napa store has paper manuals out the whazoo. But it takes real counter pros to read one. They can id your wheel cylinder off a partial number and by using the illustrations in the pictorial guides in "the book". If they try and find this stuff in the dbase on the pooter, run away, they don't have a clue as to what they are doing.

Wagner/lockheed is common id on wheel and master cylinders for worldwide applications, the "brand" doesn't mean anything. In some case the design of a particular brake system is proprietary to a single manufacturer/supplier. That is most especially true with IH components. The Scout 80 also could have had the optional 10" brake system on the front, those brakes are a "lockheed" design and none of those parts interchange with any of the other brakes systems as supplied originally by bendix, that is why we refer to those as the "lockheed" pattern.

One more time...post pics of your brake parts that ya have, then I can give you more complete info. And...tell us which of the brake systems you have as compared to the parts list I posted!
 
I dont have a camera. I have the brakes in figure 04-002. I found the corect wheel cylinder and everything on napa's website. And the napa guy didnt head for the computor he went strait to the books. I did try advance auto aswell but I walked out when they asked me who made internationals... How come theres not an adjuster on the front?
 
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I dont have a camera. I have the brakes in figure 04-002. I found the corect wheel cylinder and everything on napa's website. And the napa guy didnt head for the computor he went strait to the books. I did try advance auto aswell but I walked out when they asked me who made internationals... How come theres not an adjuster on the front?
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The parts list I posted clearly shows the differences in the two systems! Have you gone through both lists line-by-line and compared?

One system uses dedicated driver side and passenger side slaves, the other uses a common slave. The shoe hold down systems are different.

Callout #2 on the left slide and #3 on the right slide (these pages are formatted for microfiche use) are the adjusters.
 
I see the call out number three "eccentric, brake shoe adjusting -4-
nut, hex. 3/8nf
hasher, lock 3/8 medium"
but I have never seen anything like that so its a little confusing. How does that work?
 
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