My Friend and IH

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Flynn

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Well I got a 74, 100. I love the pickup even though I need to put alot of work into it, my friend likes the truck too and is maybe thinking about geting an IH as well. He really seems intrested in scouts around the 72-74 year range, sence I am the only person my age that I know that even knows what an IH is, I am not really sure if I should encourage him, or tell him otherwise. I know how much work is needed, and I have my grandpa who is teaching me how to do stuff. My friend however dose not have any one who could help him (excluding myself)

so should I help him look for an IH? Or should I not worry about it and just let him go after it if thats what he wants to do??
I just dont want him to buy an IH and then when something breaks on it, blame me for making him get it and what not...

Advice would be awesome!
 
Let him dive in!

Either he will be put off by all the work and the obscurity these rigs have compared to the big 3, or he will love it for its individuality! That is for him to decide though!
 
flynn said:
well I got a 74, 100. I love the pickup even though I need to put alot of work into it, my friend likes the truck too and is maybe thinking about geting an IH as well. He really seems intrested in scouts around the 72-74 year range, sence I am the only person my age that I know that even knows what an IH is, I am not really sure if I should encourage him, or tell him otherwise. I know how much work is needed, and I have my grandpa who is teaching me how to do stuff. My friend however dose not have any one who could help him (excluding myself)

so should I help him look for an IH? Or should I not worry about it and just let him go after it if thats what he wants to do??
I just dont want him to buy an IH and then when something breaks on it, blame me for making him get it and what not...

Advice would be awesome!
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I personally think that using an IH product for a "first project" is a great place to start. The stuff is very affordable going in, nearly all parts is readily available either off-the-shelf locally or from a specialty vendor such as ihon. There is much interchangeability amongst variations across model platforms.

And there are always folks like ourselves on the lookout for projects that didn't gel if your buddy looses interest.

There is nothing special about this stuff,...yes, there are many nuances as to how they went together, but no more so than for any other "brand". An IH noob must understand these rigs are not chryfordrolets, they are what they are, ya can't turn one into a k5 blazer, an f100, or an early Bronco, you must appreciate and understand 'em for what they are and go with the flow!
 
Just be honest with him about things. Point out that these are old vehicles and dam near all of them have been subjected to lack of maintenance as well as out right abuse. These conditions can and do apply to any vehicle of that vintage regardless of make. Despite all that, a lot of them are still alive, which is a real testament. Nobody from International ever intended for these vehicles to be around this long. So, what he needs to understand is, unless you really pony up some dough at the git go, you're not buying a turn key daily driver. Most of them need a fair amount of tlc to get them to the point of being mechanically sound. Once there, the dependability is legendary. And it's not as if you're making him buy anything. I would just stay fairly neutral about the whole thing by niether encouraging nor discouraging his purchase. Instead, simply present the pros and cons as you know them being an owner yourself.
 
All right thanks for all of the advice :) its good to see this is an ative thread, well I have mentioned all the pros and cons to him about the IH's. His first responce was "but you drive yours every day!" so I had to explane to him how that was after fixing my exhuast manifolds, replacing the front weel barings, buying a carb that was the right size for it, cleaning out the gas tanks, and my personal favorite, killing the mud dabber nest under the bed of the thing.

He seemed to understand what I was geting at, but the problem is, is that he wants one still. But he wants me to teach him everything. I explaned to him that I dont know everything, I'm only 19 afterall, hes a year older than me and seems to lack alot of common sence with cars. He cant look to anyone in his family for help either, and its not that I wouldnt love to help him, its just I dont think I would have the time to fix up my own truck, go to college and work on this Scout he is intrested in, as much fun as I think it would be.

I guess what I'm really worried about is if I do help him, he wont follow through, we have been partners for stuff in school, which ment I do all the work and he gives me a bunch of "oops I forgot" that and I dont want him to shell out cash for it then blame me because he has to work on it, any idea of how I could test him to see if he wouldnt give up on the thing??
I know it sounds like I'm cryin in my soup here, but I dont have anyone to talk to about it, sence I am the only kid in my group of friends who knows what an oil filter is. Just to put a perspective on things.

Its hard to not wanna scare someone off, but give them the truth at the same time
 
And you kid,...are hanging in the right place for assistance! My primary reason to be doing this is to keep the flame alive so's you kidz can have sum fun and learn shit before yore gummint snuffs it out!

Have yore buddy post a cash bond for project completion and have yore grandma hold it! And put the title in her name until it's road-worthy (you don't wanna be responsible for yore buddy's habits!!).

If bubba #2 don't come through, then ya got the paper to hold over his haid!

Or...maybe yore buddy needs to establish a track record by starting out with a definite throwaway ride like a chrysler "k" car with the trunk lid removed so ya kin call it a suv?
 
Thanks for further clarifying your situation. I understand your predicament. You sound like a good kid, brought up right with a big heart. Just the kind of person that unfortunately often gets taken advantage of by those who maybe weren't raised with the same set of values. It's not that they're bad people necessarily, just different. It's in your nature to want to help out a friend whenever possible, and that's commendable. What about asking your friend to help you on your rig the next time it needs something, under the guise that if you want to own one of these rigs, this is part of the deal. See how he does with some basic tasks under your supervision. Maybe he'll really take to it. If he balks or just can't grasp the simplest concepts, that will speak volumes as to what your next step should be.
 
Well I decided to see if he would help me with my truck, today I have to paint the gass tanks, I called him last night after reading you guys posts, I told him to be at my place early so we could pick up the paint and drive the truck over to the shop, I waited an hour then took off. It sucks that he didnt show, I called him twice, then his Mom picked up and said "oh he is still asleep" still asleep at 10 :/ so I told her of the deal he made, but she didnt want to wake him up because he would be "cranky" I dont know what to think, but as a first run it isnt good. Now he missed out on learning how to pull a tank out, and all that stuff. Once it gets a tad bit warmer ill get out an paint em. Well I guess I was planing on typeing up a big sucsess story, but if he dosent have the motivation to get out of the bed before 10 I dont know if I should bother to persue his intrest in it.
 
korllach said:
buddy f'er... Or the infamous blue falcon!!


Lookit the wingspan on that sh!t bird!!
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Not sure what all that means. I agree with scott ('75 IH 200). There be red flags poppin' up all over the place. Your gut has already been telling you how to handle this. It May not seem like it right now, but you'll be a much better friend to this guy in the long run by steering him clear of owning any vehicle that needs much tlc. They aren't for everyone. That's just a fact of life. He needs a get in and go disposable vehicle. He can still enjoy yours as an invited passenger, but I don't see it getting much further than that any time soon. Perhaps down the road with added maturity that May change.
 
The guy sounds like a buddy fucker... Or if swearing will get someone in a brown campaign hat to yell at you and make you do push ups... They are called blue falcons.
 
Thanks for the translation korllach. I'd never been aquainted with that vernacular before. Perhaps since I was never active military?...or have I just led a sheltered life?
 
Blue falcons...
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Thats funny lol.

Well the days work is done, got warmer sooner than expected, tanks are painted, and are drying, I got the new sending units in yesterday from Isa's, I couldn't believe to see them! I mean all brass and nice and new it was awesome, its like getting a present ya know??

As for my "blue falcon" lol he never showed, called him a couple more times and he didn't pick up, so oh well, no one can say I didnt try! Thanks for all the insight into the subject, it was allot of help :d

I saw there was a forum to place what your doing to your truck, I think ill start up one for my truck, show the pictures and what not, I think the feed back would be cool. Its nice here because everyone seems to want to help each other, not just critic.
 
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