I did it!!!

Check out the stance on my latest addition to my fleet - my new toy. It is sitting on 33" tires and still sprung under. And I don't think that I will go SOA with it either. It has lifted springs that I think are of the 2" variety, but could be wrong. I have driven scouts(my own mostly) that have been either SOA or stock, sprung under, and anywhere in between, and they all seem to handle just fine. The biggest difference in better handling quality that helped greatly is the shackle reversal kit. Night and day difference.
 
I read somewhere that reverse shackles can cause some odd nose diving with hard braking. What's your take on that scooter? Btw, that new rig looks great! It sits exactly the way I want mine. A little update. After some coaxing, I talked my brother in law into helping me go get the other Scout tonight. Turns out it's a 72 but overall, it's in really good shape. Took a while to get it home. Long story but, keep in mind, it was only 30 mins away. We left my house at 6:30 pm and I parked it in my shop at 11:45, lol. There is some rust but, the only dent on the thing is in the tail gate and I'm the one that put it there!!!
 
What odd noise? The first kit that I installed was on my 74 Scout, which was my daily driver for a few years afterwards, and not once had any issues (or noise) from the shackle reversal kit. Installed a second reversal kit on my 73 beast and again nothing out of the ordinary. I have recently installed two more reversal kits on two other Scout, a 69 and a 78, both not mine. Not once have I heard from these guys about any "odd noise". Only praise on how well thier scouts handled after the kit was installed.

As a side note regarding my 74 consensus of the reversal kit. At one point, some time after I installed the kit, I drove it up to the rubicon. And the suspension handled flawlessly. During the travel back to camp later in the evening, traveling down hill, both front tires droped suddenly, about two feet, and the right front fang of the shackle reversal kit had hit and scraped the rock. Almost like a sudden impact. And everything held together as if nothing happend. Scout just smiled and kept going. A bandaid helped cover up the battle scare of a scratch.

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I need to drink more cafiene before I post. After re-reading your question about the "nose dive". I personally never had that type of experience in the two kits I had installed on my own scouts. And I have not heard from the other two regarding what you have heard or read. Only possible conclusion I could think of that could cause the "nose dive" is maybe real soft leaf springs. Idk
 
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Or the squeak of poly bushings. My uncles terra has a reverse shackle. Only noise you get is the occasional squeak of new poly bushings.

We all have the night time horror stories of bringing home our scouts. Theyre very loyal to their p.o. And put up a fight til they get used to you. My suggestion...lots of beer and pb blaster. Its gonna be a long teardown :ciappa:
 
Amen to the pb blaster, lol. I'll try to get some pics up of both rigs if I can ever get a day off or get home before the sun goes down. Thanks for the reply scooter. I think I know what I'm going to do on suspension now. I really appreciate the help guys!
 
Any time. Check out the build thread of my 73 beast. Somewhere on page two, is a photo shoot of the shackle reversal kit being installed. Among other things that I'm currently in the middle of doing. It just might help in giving you even more ideas - lol. I also have a build thread of my 74 Scout(the barrel rolled Scout), floating around here some where.

I was starten to get a little light headed, un-intensionally breathing pb blaster, earlier today. Soaking up the center of the steering wheel on a 69 Scout 800, for the last couple weeks so I can take the steering wheel off in order to replace the signal wiring.
 
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Another update. I got home just in time to snap a couple pics of the 74 from the front that I'll be posting under one of the tech threads. I don't know much about suspension and this thing has a weird lean. I also dialed in the carb a little without any gauges. At least she's idling now and purring but that 700 double pumper is too big for the 318. May see if someone will swap me for a 600. I also dropped her back down on the shackles for handling and hoping to help the lean but no go. As soon as I can get some decent pics, I'll start a thread under reader's rides.
 
Yea, the 700 is a bit too big for thes ole IH motors. I posted up, in your other thread, of a photo shot of the shackles I have on my 73 beast. I have at least one pair(maybe two) of shackles sitting here on the shelf that I don't think I need. If ya need a pair let me know.

After I posted my last reply in here, I realized, in my 73 build thread, that a few of the pics where either missing or moved. So I fixed the links to them this morning.
 
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it does have a 318, runner. I think scooter's been using a little too much pb blaster! Haha!!!
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shhhhh!!!! It's good stuff man. I was planning on taking.my IH boat anchor with some good stufff for some fishing

but that 700 is still a bit big for that 318.
 
Id toss that 318. 6.9 6.9 6.9...oops there I go again.

When in doubt. IH boat anchor.

Scooter? You been into my shine buddy?

Or just pb fumes. Foggin the cylinders and closin the hood with him in it. Trying to ignore all the people banging on his shop doors
 
Lol, been there, done that on all accounts. Rust converter and sealer primer with the shop door closed can be fun too!

The 318 is gonna stay in the 74 for now. Just want to make it more road worthy while I do an axle up restore on the 72. It's looking more and more like the 6.9 ibi will be going in the 72 though. Then I'll tackle the 74 and diesel it up!
 
The 6.9 idi was an mv 404 in its early life and in my opinon was a hunk of crap. For some reason IH's sv8's had the duribility that the mv series and lv's lacked.

But the slow churning 6.9 lasted forever...course you only run it at 2800rpms. I vote bw t-19. 3.73 axles. And 31in tires lol. Highway speeds become a probibility. And low end isnt sacrificed.

Hopefully you can get us some pictures
 
Ihrunner I don't know what experience you have had with the mv and lv engines.

We ran both in school buses for years until gas got too expensive--less than 4 mpg on routes.

We never had any durability problems with any of the ihc gas engines whether they were bd, rd, sv, mv, or lv.

Regardless of size, the ihc gas engines always did better than any of the gas engines from the big 3--better fuel mileage, fewer downtimes, less upkeep.

The 9.0l was a disaster for the most part.

The 6.9l was not really enough engine in a bus unless it was a mini or was only staying in town with no hills. The 7.3l/t444e was better but the dt466 was the best.
 
549 would crack heads. Mv404 was gutless and would overheat.

The dt466 and dt360 were great engines and did well in both tractors and trucks.

The mv and lv's to me dont have the same duribility as the sv8's.

Ran a loadstar with a 404 never lasted as long as the 345's.

But as you say I May have had lemons
 
The biggest we ever had was the lv478. Never had any problems except for keeping the fuel tank full. Although, to be fair, they always got better fuel mileage than the gmc 478 v-6.

I put on close to 200,000 miles in a loadstar chassis bus with the mv404 and never had a day down due to engine problems.

And like you said, your experience May vary.
 
Ok, you guys have my head spinning. Guess I'm back to the cummins 6bt! Lol

not really, I like the weight of the 6.9/7.3 idi so, I'm actually looking a little more into the 7.3 model. The fact that you can tune these and get a fair bit more hp and torque out of them is a plus. Unless I come across something better it is looking like the 6.9 or a 7.3.
 
7.3 is a bored 6.9. Either with a banks turbo or a dialed up fuel pump will make your head spin.

Big thick black coal that makes enviormentalists squirm. And if you back it back down you could get acceptable fuel economy
 
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