drum replacment

Why are you replacing the drums...are they beyond wear limits and cannot be turned?

Have you verified that Ford-pattern rear drums will work on the front axle application of an IH 1210?? Do you know which front brake system you have and have you verified that visualy? There were a few options available on every platform regarding brake systems.
 
Michael good questons!! Anser to yor 1st yes they are at the end of their life and cannot be turned
2. According to sears my front axel was used by Ford on tier rear ends
3.no I dont, if you can help me id what front axel I have that would be great

michael mayben said:
why are you replacing the drums...are they beyond wear limits and cannot be turned?

Have you verified that Ford-pattern rear drums will work on the front axle application of an IH 1210?? Do you know which front brake system you have and have you verified that visualy? There were a few options available on every platform regarding brake systems.
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If you have a 2wd; then, those "ebay" drums will not work.

And, how would an IH non-drive front axle work as a rear drive axle on a ferd? I am confused???

At least the ferd drums do not match / look like the front drums on my 2wd 1210 t/a.

Did you even look at the drums on your vehicle???
 
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I agree with the others on all counts; and the ebay items look nothing Like the drums on my 71 1210 2wd front or rear. Besides the extensive knowledge base at ihon, a good brake and tire shop which also services medium to heavy duty trucks May be a source of information on the application and availability of drums.
What I wouldn't give for a good hollander's interchange right now.

What micheal would need to nail down the brake application for your truck can be obtained from the line set ticket. The LST is the build sheet or ticket that details the components assembled to your truck at the factory. Each thing like the driveline, steering gear, engine, brakes front or rear; is itemized with a code number which from there you can get an exact Description of what you have. This is assuming nothing was dealer modified or owner swapped later on. Pickups came with 2. One was a photocopy on 8.5x11 sheet of paper, the other was a miniature taped to the back of the glove box. You can open the glove box, depress the 2 retaining springs on the l&r sides; and it will drop forward. The small LST should be on the back of the box. Also while the box is down, you May be able to see the cowl cancer behind the box which is common to these rigs. If no such ticket exists in any form, I believe you can still get one through binder books. In the mean time, posting some nice pics of your current setup can help a lot in id'ing it too.
 
If the line ticket exists I will scan it in and upload it. Tell me ehat u need pics of for id purposes and I can have thos up too
 
There is a possible "problem" trying to find "crossover" drums for a IH 1210 -- front or rear.

A 1210 could have two different size brake shoes -- 12 x 2 1/2 and 12 x 3 -- front or rear...

I can only find one drum (front and rear) in the IH parts book for a 1210.

I do not think (definitely do not know) ferd (or any other) drums would be as "accommodating" -- would have as large as "brake surface" (for 3" shoes).

Your LST will tell (codes) which size brake shoes your IH came with origianally.
 
Your mechanic is correct that the 12 x 2.5 and 12 x 3 shoes used on that era IH's were also used by Ford and dodge. However the drums are specific to the brands.

IH used the same drum for both shoe sizes, the other mfg's used size specific drums. It May be possible to modify drums for another mfg's truck to work, but if they were a direct interchange they would be listed as such, particularly in bendix catalogs, since they are the original supplier for that brake system.
 
Because the oem vendor of the brake "systems" being referred to here were supplied by bendix back in the day, all kinds of urban myths take wing regarding parts interchangeability.

Bendix manufactured tens of thousands of different brake systems, and several other vendors also manufactured "bendix" components under a licensing arrangement. Same as for the lockheed-pattern brake systems, same as for kelsey-hayes systems, etc.

And...in the case of some bendix brake systems used in hd semi-floating and full-floating drive axles (and consequently some steering axle brake systems), there is some interchangeability amongst actual drums (and hubs) amongst various oem applications.

And...in the case of the rear (drive) d60 axle apps, drums designed for use with nominal width 3" rear brakes shoes, were used with both 2-1/4" and 2-1/2" brake shoes/backing plate assemblies, and in some cases used in steering axle brake system apps as well.

In this day and age, the "parts house" look-ups are worthless in determining which brake system you might be dealing with, and...interchangeability. That database shit is gleaned from information that was wrong 30 years ago, and is still wrong because the shit is obsolete, there is no "movement" in the inventory, and nobody has an interest in correcting the data, those dbases are supplied by developers outside the actual parts manufacturing system and are several steps removed from the real world when a discrepancy is discovered.

However, for proper identification of component level stuff like this, we must have well-focused, digi-shots of the component/system in question including any number string present, no matter if a "part number", a "mold number" a "die" number, a "lot" number, a "date code"...whatever!!! A lineset ticket is "nice-to-have" stuff, but certainly May not reflect what the vehicle in question has mounted. And what is there now is all that matters. Post the information, we can work hard to assist in identification, anything else is pure bullshit and conjecture.

The best source of information regarding brake systems such as this is your local friction materials supplier/remanufacturer. They will have extensive industry references (not some parts house bullshit database) for any brake system ever manufactured and used in the north American market. Take your parts that you are trying to replace to a friction materials professional and let them help you obtain the correct parts.
 
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