Door hinges same on Scout IIs/Terras?

Hondo

Hondo

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Anyone know if the door hinges on Scout iis and terras are the same? The springs that hold the door open on my right door are broken, and I'm tired of the door hitting me in the back.
 
What do these springs look like hondo? I'm unaware of any built in detent feature on the sii door hinges that is intended to prevent them from defying even the slightest gravitational impulse. If there is such a thing, I'm anxious to be lurned up guder on it.
 
Not sure, only know that my driver side door definitely has some kind of detent or spring that holds it open. When I am doing any work on the passenger, side I have to tie it open, or place a floor jack so the handle holds it open, so it isn't constantly smacking me in the back. Ordered a used set from the bay of e, so will find out shortly.
 
Seeing that we work on these all the time we keep a couple small blocks of wood handy for doors that won't stay open. Cut to the right width, they fit nicely between the door hinge and body holding it open.
 
That's the same method I use, Jeff. I've noticed that when the hinge pivot points are a bit dry, the doors tend to stay open a little better than after they've been freshly lubricated. Makes sense. I'm just curious about this whole "spring" notion. To my knowledge, there ain't no such a thing, but I'm ready and I'd even be happy to be proved wrong on that.
 
I've never had one of the doors off yet, so assumed there should be something in there. Looks like I May be pulling the driver side door hinges to see whats up, although I tend to be one of those if its not broke don't fix it kind of guys. Gaurantee it won't happen before the ralleye, and the Scout will be there.
 
I've gutted sii doors before, though it has been awhile and I imagine Jeff has gutted hundreds of them. I think you May be in for a disappointment when you do go elbows-deep on your door.
 
I never seen any form of an actual spring in Scout doors. Although, from my feeble recollection, of replacing all four pins in the hinges of the doors in my rolled Scout, that there was a thin rubber dog bone looking piece that got sandwiched somewhere in between the two hinge pieces. Seemed to help with slowing down the back stabbing from door slamming. Never occurred to me to take photos of it at the time.

Come to think of it, I May have easy access to those hinges. I'll try and take a look tonight when I get off work
 
If you look at the part of the hinge mounted to the door you can see a friction pad on the top and bottom sides of the part that goes in between the a-pillar mounted part of the hinge. Those pads are held in with a small retainer spring and May have fallen out or broken. The retainer wire can be seen stretching from the top friction pad to the bottom so if you have the door wide open and look in at the hinge you should see it.

From looking at mine it seems that only one hinge on either side has these friction parts. Same goes for the spare set I have. It even looks as though the "non friction" hinge doesn't have an inset for the slider.

Anyway, here's a pic to help understand what I'm talking about. I moved the plastic part out of it's groove a bit so you can see where it sits better. The bottom slider on this particular hinge was missing and I don't think it will work at all without both installed.

Another thing to point out (not sure how well you can see it in the pic) is that the a-pillar part is a tapered opening that squeezes the friction parts more as the door opens wider. When near closing there shouldn't be much friction at all.
 

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Thanks for the photo. Learnt something new. I was aware of that friction pad. But not the spring holding them in place.
 
Thanks for the great info and pictures. Good to know I'm not really imagining things:crazy: I think I even mentioned the hinge problem to you at the 50s diner at one of the past meetings.
 
I only remembered this because I had the spares sitting around that I could look at. Lemme know if you want me to bring that plastic slider to use as a template for making new ones. I can bring it to the next dinner.
 
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