Binder Brake Booster Blues

Lou

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I determined that I'd pressure bleed my brakes before going to the fall rally as it had been several years. With the pressure bleeder up to 10 psi I found that the master cylinder began leaking out the back and down the booster. I bought a new master and before installing it I pulled the booster, wire brushed it and painted both master and booster. I bench bled the master, installed it and pressure bled the system. Then the fun began.
The brakes were very sensitive to pedal pressure and would try to lock up with to much pedal effort. I put the old master back on and had the same problem. After some discussion with others I installed a new combination valve. Same problem. A brake shop took a look at it and said it was the master but that to make sure it system was "done right" the right caliper should be replaced and the rotor turned, for $800.00! That ended that conversation. Having now driven it around for a day or two I trusted the brakes enough to drive up to lake francis for the ihonlynorth fall rally. While no one was sure the best bet was the booster though no one could explain how a bad booster would create a hyper-sensitive brake pedal. On the way home today Jeff Ismail was good enough to open his shop on a Sunday and sell me a booster. He even offered his shop floor for me to do the replacement. I elected on getting it home in case it wasn't the booster and I needed to be close to my beer supply. After a quick swap a test drive proved that the problem was fixed, the brakes work great. Thank you Jeff.
My only question: how in the world does a booster create a hyper-sensitive pedal?? Any bad booster I've ever had created a very hard pedal.
 
Thanks for your help Jeff, I'll be by tomorrow (the 8th) to drop off the core.
I did find the following statement on this type of failure and it seems to have been quoted in quite a few tech sources.
"the booster has a cracked internal hub. When there is a crack in the phenolic hub inside the booster it will be either totally on or totally off. Any slight pressure to the pedal will cause the brakes to lock up. The booster must be replaced."
 
I think I parked too close to your truck at the ralleye! Got home unloaded the Scout, drove it around the block once, and when I pulled it into the garage both front disc brakes locked. Haven't had time to look at it yet, but rears were ok, and fronts let go after sitting over night. Also noticed that the brake pedal dropped further than usual before they really grabbed on the way home. Haven't seen any fluid leaks, and both reservoirs are full. Thought the l extra travel was because I needed to tighten the e-brake, because it was definitely not holding on any kind of grade, but looks a little more involved now.
 
Hmm after reading through the brakes postings, I think I need to install the new front brake hoses I bought from Jeff at the ralleye. Just installed new rear drums, cylinders, shoes, and spring set a couple of weeks ago, so what I meant was I needed to check the shoe adjustment to tighten the e-brake up. Looked at it last night and it the front locked up once, but not again - doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling or the gumption to drive past the range of my aaa card.
 
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