1979 Scout II old Skyjacker 2" springs sacked out Advice Please

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I need a quick, easy and cost effective lift kit solution for the 1979 scoutii. I have been running a set of Skyjacker 2” springs that I bought slightly used(originally on erik vanrs Scout for about 2 years with not much use). Main use for this vehicle is backcountry road trips with a heavy load of gear. That includes the hard top, wilderness sport rack with shovel/axe, highlift jack and 2nd spare. Other heavy items include fully loaded cooler, 6 gallons of water, 5-15 gallons of extra gas, tools, spare parts, oil, camping gear for 2 and everything just shy of the kitchen sink. I do a lot of highway to get to my destinations and then go off pavement mostly on very rough washboardy roads damaged by flash floods and lack of grading. No trails with the heavy load though worse than steele pass. Also I run BFG mud 31x10.50x15.

The history of these springs on the Scout is as follows: installed slightly used with no caster shims and handled great with decent ground clearance. The main issue was breaking shock hardware on death valley washboards. I was running the Skyjacker hydro shocks for 2 “ lifts and they finally died after being dragged one too many times. The final blow was in the Nevada desert when the front right lower shock mount broke off the Scout and leaving outer Ubolt without tension. That is when I finally added 3 inch extended bump stops which finally cured the broken shock hardware syndrome.

The next issue that came along was the rear of the truck began to sag slightly and the mud terrains were grinding on the rear of the wheel wells under articulation. I believe that I improved all that with 1.5 inch extended rear shackles. Ride height evened out and tires rubbing was almost non existent.

Fast forward about 6 yrs after numerous heavily loaded outback expeditions including a baja run and now the axles (with the truck fully loaded) are only about 3/4s of an inch from the bumpstops in the rear and about 1.25” in the front. Initially when I installed the longer bumpstops there was a good 3-4 inches of clearance. I was going off to the desert the other night but just going down the freeway I could feel the suspension bottoming out so I aborted the mission..

I need help deciding which route to go. I have a small budget for rusty Scout and want to remain SUA and be able to haul heavy loads with decent travel and road-ability.

First choice I am thinking Rough Country 4” if they can handle the load.

My next choice is Skyjacker 4” if they can handle the load.

My last choice is the triangle 4” springs due to cost and what people say of the stiff ride. I am very willing to go to the triangles though if that is the only real solution for best load and towing capacity. Perhaps the stiff ride will be reduced under heavy loading..

Maybe I should bring this thing to Jeff fully loaded so he can evaluate the situation and come up with a best solution with the parts he has in stock or can get. I want this thing ready for death valley by thanksgiving and will perform the labor if need be.
 
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Triangles are stiff and would fix your load problem and probably ride smooth.

I have had two sets of Skyjacker springs and if you read the fine print the rears are set for no load, no roof, no spare etc... If those things are to be used then you need to add a leaf which they have. I found that a stock Scout II front leaf worked perfectly.
 
Yeah I have heard that the add a leaf May be the most affordable way to go. I appreciate your input.

One thing I am trying to figure out is how much travel should there be under compression? What am I shooting for? 3"-5"? What would be normal? Unfortunately, when I got the truck the stock springs were very flat with almost no travel. When I upgraded to these skyjackers I kept busting rear upper shock mounts because the shocks were bottoming out before the original bump stops were doing their job. The newer stops May be a tad long now but the tires still scrape at times under heavy load.
 
I do not know what factory Skyjacker specs are but I always shoot for as much travel as possable without tire rubbing. Sometimes a tire can rub with no harm, I am talking about rubbing damage.
 
Well Jeff said the best deal for me was the Rough Country 2.5" inch kit that included bushings, ubolts and hydro shocks. It really was a great deal. I can say that the new springs are serious truck springs. Not a fun job for one under a shade tree. I say that cause it took many hours just to the get the rears replaced fighting rusty hardware and slightly oversized center bolt heads. The center bolt issue was resolved by lining it up the best I could and then gently and evenly crank down on the ubolts. I had the axle loose on both sides when I did the first one. The second one was a bitch to line up as the Dana 44 would not budge much. I ended up getting the ubolts started barely with the center bolt about 2 inches from the hole on the spring perch. With a pry bar I was able to coax the Dana 44 into position and get center bolt just barely lined up with the target and then nursed the ubolts tight.

Rears are on but I am gonna pay someone to do the fronts.

Now with about 350 pounds of gear in the back the bump stops are almost 4" above the rear axle. I left the Skyjacker nitro shocks on it for now because they are just 2 years old. It was what I was hoping for. Stiffer but smooth with a heavy load. Glad I did it but the labor for one person in a wheelchair was challenging to say the least. Also the new springs are thicker and weigh about (guessing) 30% more than the Skyjacker 2" softrides. Saving the skyjackers for a spring over axle conversion down the road some when I transition my desert expedition workhorse duties over to the ih150 4x4 pickup and convert rusty Scout into a more serious off road tow behind vehicle.

Still scratching my head avoiding my scalp wound (rusty exhaust hanger) wondering why there is a 7/16 spacer block under the perch on the passenger side rear. Looks like there May be one on the right front as well.
 
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still scratching my head avoiding my scalp wound (rusty exhaust hanger) wondering why there is a 7/16 spacer block under the perch on the passenger side rear. Looks like there May be one on the right front as well.

Some trucks came from the factory with that spacer to level out the suspension if it was uneven. Does it lean now?
 
Ihonlynorth finished the job today by putting on the fronts. Let me tell you it was a pleasure to pay these guys to do the work cuz they let me watch. Work got done much faster than what I could ever accomplish in my asphalt driveway and my hands are clean and body is well rested.

Now only leans 1 degree to the passenger side with both 1/2" spacers in. Really not noticeable to the naked eye. Drops to .9 degree of lean when I sit behind the wheel. Lean is more than likely due to rusty rotten passenger floor forward body mount. Extremely happy with the upgrade to Rough Country 2.5" spring kit. Worth every penny in this frugal day and age. Now have 3-4" of travel from bump stop to axle front and rear with the truck more than partially loaded. Rides good on the rough truck lane on the interstate too. Off road test soon. Jeff was dead on about these springs being my answer.

Ihonlynorth is the best spa in norcal for your beloved IH for sure.
 
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