Bolt Up 5 sp Overdrive Trans to BG240 engine?

I am looking for a way to improve the fuel mileage on my s120. Is there a bolt up transmission that has a 5 gear overdrive that is a bolt up the the bd or bg 240 straight 6?

My research suggests that there are trans from '70 and later that might work. Three choices but only one, the t35 has an overdrive 5th gear. Input please!
 
The t35 is direct drive. The t34 has an od. But its not much of an od. Better option May be to swap axles with better gearing.

Not sure if it bolts up. Youd need the bellhousing as well. I have two of them. And it doesnt look like theyd bolt up to my bd240.

Also, welcome to the forum. Please introduce yourself and your IH crittters. We love pictures.

The gents who will follow up my post are the best and the brightest in the IH world. Here on this site you dont have to sift through the crapola. You'll get the facts.....uhh sadly just not from me
 
Thanks for the input. My vehicle is a 1956 s120 Travelall, my second one. After getting the first one set up like I wanted it, with the improved mileage and performance of a Chevy 292 six, when my wife said she was being transferred to CA, I gave it away! Stupidity!

Finally found one that was "restored" on Craig's list 4 years ago. Seller was asking top dollar and I didn't have it. After it disappeared from cl I contacted the seller to see if it had sold. He concluded it wasn't going to in that economy and if I wanted it to contact him any time because he probably still have it.

Two years later my wife got a bonus and offered a portion of it to buy the '56. The seller still had it. Same price. Drove to reno to see it and flew back to reno the next weekend to buy it...and drove it home to san jose.

Was unimpressed with the slow speeds and average of 10mpg fuel burn. Differentials are 3.73:1. Not sure that there are higher speed gears for the '56 s120 4x4. Even if there are, indications of what I have seen of similar ihc swaps, the cost is pretty high.

I have been looking for od units that I could stick between the trans and transfer case. There is no such thing as a "cheap" one. I have found the trans you referenced for as little as $200 with warranty. But, I do not know the od ration on that tranny.

There are also some very expensive overdrive new transmissions available, but $2500 for a tranny just isn't going to save me that much gasoline. And, they kept saying that it wouldn't fit the ihc. When I fit the Chevy 6 to the previous s120 I had to hand make all the adapters to mount and connect the Chevy engine to the ihc trans, 'cause it didn't fit! Which including creating my own clutch system. I look back and wonder why I kept no construction notes and pictures, as much of the changes I made would be easier now if I could remember how I did it then (also converted it to saginaw steering...which is really stumping me this time around)

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My first vision of it in reno

my "fully restored" prize is not. Lot of small problems such as gas tank(s) that read 1/2 full when they are full and empty when they actually are half full. Vehicle is converted to 12v but he changed things that didn't need to be changed and I'd say he installed the incorrect ohm tank sending units (people don't believe me when I say that nothing had to be done to the sending units or the gauge during a 12v conversion).

It also needs the "knock gear" (final drive gear out of the transfer case in the np201 tc) which I am replacing with the one piece solid gear out of the np200 tc. I welded that gear up in the first Travelall and then drove it 200,000 miles without a peep.
 
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Well its damn near mint. Very beautiful rig. Congrats. The IH t-34 has a final ratio of .80:1. Hence why I say not much of an overdrive. My first loadstar had a t34 and the big jumps as well as the inability to use the o/d at full load left me unimpressed. However for your're unit it May be perfect.

The diamond series engines are brutally tough. Until they hit about 3300rpm lol. But even so 10mpg sounds dismal. Seems that with 3.73's and 235-255 tires you should be able to maintain a happy 65. At 2600-2800 rpm.

Maybe an sv8 swap in the near future :icon_ninja:

hopefully the brainiacs chime in with more info than I can provide.

Again congrats on that amazing looking rig. Hope to see more posts about it
 
Judging by where the bg240 makes its hp I thought maybe a .60-.65 to 1 would be feasible. I also have a Ford 3.8l v6. Actually three of them; 1 stock and 2 with high speed cams in them (was going to be the engine in the airplane I was building-'nother story). Peak at 190 hp and 4200 rpm(redline 4800 rpm on regular pump gas), but still idle smoothly at 700 rpm. Since I have them, one might be a better choice for both on and off road.

One of the incentives for reacquiring the Travelall was for a bug-out vehicle. Simple ignition system; rugged; something into which I could easily swap another engine or drive-train.
 
all you need to do is mate the 5-speed to the 6 cyl., bell housing. Jeff ( drill hole's ? ) maybe only 2.?

Easy enough. In my previous s120 Travelall I installed a Chevy 292 straight six. Wonderful increase in highway power. Drove all interstates at posted speed. I fabricated all the engine mounts and frame mods. I made an extension adapter to bolt the 292, with its bell housing, to the t98 trans.

I also had the Chevy transmission (don't remember the designation; was much smaller with aluminum case), but I thought the ihc t98 was likely a stronger transmission. I wasn't disappointed.

An engine of slightly more hp but with higher rpm operation will solve my problems, and I have the Ford 3.8l v6s. Just think it a bit easier to swap trans or install an od rather than swap engines. As modified, the Ford engine makes 195 hp at 4200 rpm, with a easy operating range at 3800 to 4800 rpm. Rpm is limited only by the engine's ability to breath. I know several people who run the engine in the plane at 5200 rpm with no reduction in longevity.
 
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One of the incentives for reacquiring the Travelall was for a bug-out vehicle. Simple ignition system; rugged; something into which I could easily swap another engine or drive-train.

As an aside...I was filling up my 62 IH pickup with gas Friday when a man asked me what year my truck was. He asked if there was anything electronic on the motor, then he made a statement that it could still be driven if an emp bomb went off. Point being that many people are considering the necessity of having a way to "bug-out" if/when it is the prudent action to take.

Btw, my gas milage also is in the 10-12 mpg range with the bw12 auto tranny and a bd-220 straight six engine.
 
...he asked if there was anything electronic on the motor, then he made a statement that it could still be driven if an emp bomb went off. Point being that many people are considering the necessity of having a way to "bug-out" if/when it is the prudent action to take.

A condenser, a set of points, and maybe a ballast resister is all the "fix" I'd need to get up and running after an emp...a specific concern of mine. (plus the ruggedness to carry 100+ gallons of on-board fuel when I finish my planed mods).
 
btw, my gas mileage also is in the 10-12 mpg range with the bw12 auto tranny and a bd-220 straight six engine.

Let me tell about a wild part of the history of my first s120. When I installed the Chevy engine, as I related, I could run speed limits+ on the interstate. Never had a bit of trouble with the drive train (after I "fixed" the knock gear). But, the Chevy 292 straight six, from the day it was installed, on the highway at 60 mph got 18-19 mpg! Blew my mind that this heavy flat front Travelall could get that kind of mileage.

Thirty thousand miles later I burned a valve; pulled the head and had it completely overhauled at a slc automotive machine shop. From that day on my mileage was never better than 14 mpg and that required very gentle driving.

I tried every thing. Several carbs; different air cleaners, and even some exhaust changes. Twelve to 14 mpg was It. Lot of speculation, but no one ever came up with a good reason for such good mileage initially or the dramatic change after the overhaul of the head.
 
Did this work? My understanding is the sd/bd/bg series engines have a different bell pattern than the sv series.
 
I have gotten sidetracked with the rest of life. No time to work on the Travelall. Too much work on the house getting ready for a wedding this fall. (son getting his masters in meche in the fall and getting married a month later.) and mother in-law has come to stay.
 
So it's been awhile since this discussion re putting the nv4500 5 speed behind a bd240 was started. We did learn an adapter kit is available and I would really like to hear from someone who has done it. I have just put my 1957 s120 4x4 on the road. Great fun but the t10 trans is making it a less than perfect experience.
 
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