Good or Scrap?

BadIntentions

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I have inherited what appears to be a '64 Scout 80 4x4. I am wondering, should I try to save this thing, part it out, or call the junk yard?

Here is what I can glean from it:

quickly:

i4 152, does crank.
3 speed
body rusted, but not rusted out in most areas
roof does not seem to fit, might not even be the right roof.
Floor pans are not the worst, but might be replaced anyway.
Po bastardized the electrical (surprise!)


i4 152 ci, I reworked enough electrical on it to get it to turn over. Its not seized, but I am afraid to put fuel in the tank until I get the chance to drop it and clean it. Has a recently 'rebuilt' carb according to the sticker. Fuel tank is in too good of a condition to not have gotten some serious love. Radiator is holding water, and does not appear rusted out at the bottom. All around rubber/hoses/belt in the engine compartment will have to go.

4x4 with manual hubs, transmission and transfer case shift through all the gears. The clutch wont come up on its own. The slave cyl is a new manufacture unit, master appears to be older. Perhaps a rebuild will save it? It May just be corroded to hell.

Brake pedal goes down, wont come up. Master cyl appears older, and I cannot get the top off to check the fluid level. Definitely has drum brakes all around. Axles look stock, but I am not exactly an expert on these things (gee, really?)

body has rust, but is rather sound. No spots are rusted through on the outside (except the bed) underside seems fairly solid. I would remove the body and blast/protect it if I were to try to save this thing.

Front end sheet metal is beat, but there is replacement sheet metal in the bed. Just need to find about 1 bazillion fasteners, blast, prime, and paint. Bed has been seriously butchered by po, would remove 'new' and old metal, replace whole thing inside.

The major killer for me is the top. It appears 'bent' or not the right top to begin with. It seems with some coercion I could make it fit, but I am not sure that's the right route to go. Maybe some kind of aftermarket thing would be in order if the truck does end up joining my crew.

Pics below, but really wondering, would you do it? Would you give this thing a good home, or put it in the junkyard like so many of its kin?

Part of me really wants to get excited by this truck, but another part of me doesn't want to get letdown by a project that can never be finished. I see this as a potential hobby vehicle, maybe some light off-roading. Not buried up to the axles, but driving through the woods, out to the shooting range, and maybe a few 10 - 20 mile trips around town.

Chris

images of Scout:
Scout pics

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Hell yah it's a keeper!!!!!!!!!

We've all seen way worse brought back to life. You have all the pieces and the rust is minor from what I can see.
 
All the points you bring up here are just typical issues to deal with when playing with any old iron! Points that we deal with here every day and are certainly not peculiar to the world of ihc-produced special interest vehicles.

And far worse platforms have been brought back to life over and over by folks that enjoy doing this type work and not looking for a quick fix to make a runner of some sort.

If you don't enjoy performing the type of work that is needed to bring the subject vehicle to life, then sell/give it to someone who does. Why contemplate destroying a vehicle with so much potential if in the right hands?

The supply of Scout 80 and Scout 800 complete vehicles is rapidly dwindling...and the current political climate in this country certainly contributes to the demise of all special interest vehicles. The economic contribution of the special interest vehicle industry is enormous, a point which government seems to totally ignore.

Every part on the subject rig has value to someone who enjoys this hobby/business we deal in.
 
Well, that's comforting, I am gonna go ahead and give her a good home here. Besides, my cat would be really really mad if I took away her new favorite cat toy.

Well, one of the images in the gallery I linked shows the roof issue I am currently looking at. Any ideas what might have happened? Could the roof have changed shape overtime, sitting in the sun?

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Also; what the hell is this metal for? Does it belong to the Scout?

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The top doesn't look like it is against the windshield frame, but it is hard to tell if it is the correct year for your Scout. The early 61/62 scouts had different tops/windshield frames then the later 63-65 scouts. The piece of metal you are referring to is the transmission/transfer case skid plate. It bolts onto the trans crossmember. That Scout looks to be in reasonably good shape rust wise.:thumbsup:
 
the top doesn't look like it is against the windshield frame, but it is hard to tell if it is the correct year for your Scout. The early 61/62 scouts had different tops/windshield frames then the later 63-65 scouts. The piece of metal you are referring to is the transmission/transfer case skid plate. It bolts onto the trans crossmember. That Scout looks to be in reasonably good shape rust wise.:thumbsup:

Kinda makes me wonder why its not attached :sosp:

when I set the top over the windshield properly, it is about 2 inches too far forward to secure to the rear bulkhead. I think the top is bent, but that is a problem for later down the road. Today I am going to drop the fuel tank, clean it out, leak check it, and clean/protect its plates and brackets. Maybe replace the oil and filter and see if the engine will start. Anything special to watch out for when trying to start these engines? This one has been sitting for at least 5 years.
 
read this thread and it will get you started on how these motors oil and what you should do before you try and start them.

http://www.forums.IHPartsAmerica.co...I-4-sv-engine-non-oiling-rocker-assembly.html

I was getting ready to follow that guide when I started changing oil. I got nothing but milkshake out of the engine. I am putting together a list of parts I will need. I am going to drop the pan to make sure there are no other surprises. I understand ihon has a rebuild kit for these engines, but cannot seem to find it on the site. Do I just call? About how much do one of these kits cost?
 
I was getting ready to follow that guide when I started changing oil. I got nothing but milkshake out of the engine. I am putting together a list of parts I will need. I am going to drop the pan to make sure there are no other surprises. I understand ihon has a rebuild kit for these engines, but cannot seem to find it on the site. Do I just call? About how much do one of these kits cost?

Only about one-half of our available-on-shelf inventory is shown in the online store, ya gotta call us and discuss your needs so that you get the right parts, first time! There are many nuances to dealing with this stuff and ya can't simply click onna item like an engine kit and determine what is needed.

First off...ya gotta tear the motor down and determine what parts are needed and in what sizes after measuring all the critical dimensions.

Our IH engine kits are custom assembled for the customer's specific needs, not some "standard" assortment of stuff that "might" be correct. We need to know "which" variation of a 152 or 196 four cylinder you are dealing with. Some folks want a "stock" camshaft, some want a performance grind. Bearing selection is dependent upon your crankshaft journal condition and size, same for piston rings or over-size pistons. Our performance cams are custom ground for ihon, not some "part number" selected from a website based upon smokeblow.

Pricing for an engine kit is determined after all the bases have been covered, that way there are no surprises after the parts are delivered and ya find out the vendor didn't know ya really wanted rod bearings too! These motors are not chryfordrolets, and as such are unique in this day and age.

Spend some time cruising through all the threads regrading engine issues and you will see what I mean!
 
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