Rebuild Engine or Remanufactured Engine

magnum04rt

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I am relatively new to the nw pacific area,

I don't have a feel for the resources for rebuilding a 392.....nor do I have any idea of what the baseline price of a rebuild is.

On the other hand there are online resources advertising the current price of "better than new" remanufactured 392 long block assys.

What are the pro's and cans associated to one -vs- the other?
Anyone had decent luck with a remanufactured 392?
 
Truthfully and capable machine shop that can follow directions will be able to take care of all the required block work. Really the same as any engine. Any sv specific questions can be answered right here.

The biggest f-up is with the cam bearing installation. Common to have bearings installed so all or part of the oil holes for the top end and lifter galleries are blocked. These can be corrected after the fact by re-drilling and deburring the id.

Make sure the machine shop leaves the main saddles alone. Any attempt to align hone them will leave you with no way to correct the lack of timing gear running clearance. You have to lap them on a machine with lapping compound to reduce the center to center distance. I have done it but not a standard deal for most shops.

Cost wise an IH sv only costs about 10-15% more than one of the big 3's v8's and that is mostly due to pistons and bearings.

Hope you decide to keep it all IH but would understand going to a big 3 engine.
 
Just saw you are in reno. Reno is playing noterdame Saturday. Got a family friend playing in the game also. Sorry for being off subject.:rolleyes5:
 
As Robert has said, there are nuances to any machine work for any one engine assembly.

We are going through those nuances step-by-step in this thread that is slowly evolving:

http://www.forums.IHPartsAmerica.com/gas-engine-tech/1143-sonjamotor-lives.html

We are attempting to address every small detail and nuance regarding engine machine work and assembly using that thread.

And the same type info is being developed in this thread:

http://www.forums.IHPartsAmerica.com/gas-engine-tech/2468-152-rebuild.html

And this is not intended to be high end/blueprint stuff, but common attention to detail that anyone can do by simply following directions and avoiding shortcuts.

Nearly all standard machine shop practices and assembly details are common between the I-4 and sv engine series.

Yes...some rebuild components for IH stuff May be a bit more costly than for chryfordolet...but that is based upon the near complete lack of demand for those parts in the commercial engine building world today. But so what...this is special interest stuff! If ya wanna play with "normal" then start buying up '82 Ford, '83 dodge, and '78 chev pickups!

Ihon has worked very hard over the last year to bring in virtually every internal engine component for these motors and have the stuff on the shelf. We are having crankshafts reground nearly every day and can supply with proper bearing sets for whatever dimension the crank was ground to! We have new (sv) and regrind (I-4 and sv) cams in stock in many popular specs.

Cylinder head work for any ihc ohv head is commonly done in any automotive machine shop, nothing special there...all parts available.

The issues we discuss regarding valve train lubrication/valve train issues are always caused by lack of proper engine maintenance over the years and botched attempts at bring engine to life that have set non=-rotated for way too long.

Any myth regarding "cost" to build these engines is just that...a myth. Machine work costs in the commercial arena are machine work costs, and that depends upon the local market. It cost no more to bore an IH sv block than it costs to bore a 327 chev. It costs no more to have a sbc crank ground than it costs to have a 392 crank ground! It's virtually never necessary to replace the timing gears in an IH motor unless they have been damaged from improper removal. The timing set in a chryfordrolet needs to replaced every time the ignition and valve timing gets "weird"!

We can go on and on...but the bottom line is...this stuff we play with is "special interest", it ain't throwaway government motors shit.
 
I do not know much about "reman-ers".

A nov 2005 issue of 4wheel drive & sport utility magazine has an article about a reman-ed 392 by jasper engines. (it seems that the "4 wheel" magazines are basically sales / advertising / promotion "mechanisms" anymore.)

checked their website and it looks like they deal with "installers" (dealers / auto shops / fleet maint) -- not the individual..

Checked google and found a "complaint site" that talked about jasper -- of course, you never hear of the "successes"??? ...

my ex-corvair mechanic moved out of the bay area (1986?) and went to work at a remanner . I do not remember him talking much about the place specifically, but I got the impression that "volume was king" ...

personally, I would take my engine to Jeff (ihon) (since I am "in the area") for rebuilding .

it will probably cost quite a bit more than a reman engine, but I would feel better about the end result.
 
I do not know much about "reman-ers".

A nov 2005 issue of 4wheel drive & sport utility magazine has an article about a reman-ed 392 by jasper engines. (it seems that the "4 wheel" magazines are basically sales / advertising / promotion "mechanisms" anymore.)

checked their website and it looks like they deal with "installers" (dealers / auto shops / fleet maint) -- not the individual..

Checked google and found a "complaint site" that talked about jasper -- of course, you never hear of the "successes"??? ...

my ex-corvair mechanic moved out of the bay area (1986?) and went to work at a remanner . I do not remember him talking much about the place specifically, but I got the impression that "volume was king" ...

personally, I would take my engine to Jeff (ihon) (since I am "in the area") for rebuilding .

it will probably cost quite a bit more than a reman engine, but I would feel better about the end result.[/quote ]

Robert I'd like to get a hold of Jeff and see what his schedule is for the oct / nov time frame . let me know of an appropriate way and means to contact Jeff and I will do so.
 
This is Jeff's / IH Parts America's (ihon) web site --

530-268-0864 = IH Parts America

he is "around" 9 - 5 ish, but he is on the phone quite a bit -- I think.

They are in Loomis (for now) -- about 10 miles east of sacramento and a mile or so north of i80.

Email sales@IHPartsAmerica.com
 
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