RMI-25 Cooling System Treatment

Craig

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I know this is not oil, but you seem to know a lot about rmi-25.

I've been looking at different coolants. If fact every major auto maker has there own "cocktail" they recommend.

my question is what coolants have the rmi-25 been tested with? I was going to put some in my newer cars until I figured out I better do more research or end up with the dreaded brown sludge

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Craig,

I am a warehouse distributor for the rmi-25 cooling system treatment, so that's why I happen to know about the product.

You are smart to be cautious about adding something "unknown" into your cooling systems, but to answer your question, the things that the oem's have in common is that they don't want to see products containing silicates, borates or molybdenates in them. Those May in fact have an adverse reaction to the newer chemistry coolants. Since rmi-25 does not contain any of these ingredients, it is safe to use, even in the much maligned "dexcool." GM, and most all the others warn against using any kind of additives or risk voiding the warranty, but we have been using it in dexcool (and other applications) since they all came out without any problems. Like I said, it is the chemistry clash they are wary of. Dexcool is perhaps a little more sensitive to low coolant level, and out-of balance mixture (water) than some of the others are, and I have seen completely plugged up tanks as a result of someone inadvertently adding the "green stuff" to systems with dexcool in them.

I have some fleet customers who when purchasing a new unit, drain the original coolant out, flush the system and re-fill it with the "good ol' green stuff" because they have had so many problems, especially water pumps. They also add the prescribed amount of rmi-25 at that time and keep it current.

I know that I had suggested to you to go to my website to get the full info on rmi-25, and if you didn't have the chance to do so yet, I encourage you to do so. Make sure you pass your cursor close to the "menu" and you will get a drop down which covers several topics....then go through each one of them. If you still have questions after that, get back to me for clarification.

Thanks for your concern and your post!

Dick floryanowich
 
I know that I had suggested to you to go to my website to get the full info on rmi-25, and if you didn't have the chance to do so yet, I encourage you to do so. Dick floryanowich

Ok I must be dense, I just did a search for rmi-25 and look around a bit. Can you post your website again.

Thanks
 
I'll quote chapter and verse on runnin' far away from that dexcool fraudshit! It ain't fit to even feed nancy pelosi or her pet hamster harry!

Ya want horror stories...show up at the rallye and I'll regale ya for hours!

If anyone would throw a class action on GM's azz over dexcool, they'd be shut down in 24 hours. But at the rate they are goin' they May eat themselves for dinner before john edwards finds a client to go after 'em.
 
Michael,

I think you are much more outspoken than I am, I tend to choose my words with a little more "sensitivity" - however, in this case I agree with you.

Except that I have absolutely no idea whatsover as to what in the heck a "chupacabra" is!

Df
 
Yeah dick...yore a businessman! I'm just a half-senile old bastard that don't mince words after 40+ years workin' for a livin' and now live off momma's welfare!

Ya don't know about chupees? I bet aggie pate did!

Try this for sum booklernin':

howstuffworks "how chupacabras work"

They always show up inna election year.
 
Michael,

thanks for the kind words and the education!

Pate was long gone by the time I got hooked up in 1985, but I have heard of him....someone named thelma pate was there during wwii, but I'm not sure what the relation was.

Df
 
I know you've repped for swepco for many years dick, I really enjoyed our brief chat regarding the "north side" of ft. Worth when we met at Jeff's back in April...most especially because I was so thrilled to drive by "headquarters" there on north main back in January and point out the place to my wife! What great memories of "home"! And it's still there!!!!

You prolly know all the stuff in this link:

north of the river: a brief history ... - google book search

The author, j'nelle pate is a friend and former colleague from my teaching days at tarrant county community college. I taught at the northwest campus (10 years) in that very historic north side area out on marine creek lake overlooking the old buck sansom ranch. The original chisolm trail ran right through there.

I never met aggie I but he was a legend in ft. Worth to the tune of amon carter and will rogers! His son...aggie jr. Was actually a customer of mine when I managed the old fauber motor co. There on s. Jennings behind the justin boot factory. A motorcycle dealership that dated back to 1932 or so.

One Christmas, aggie jr. Came in and bought 6 honda mini-trail 50 two wheelers for the grandkids (1969). I delivered all out to the pate ranch and museum there south west of benbrook, tx (cresson addy I believe). What a surprise all those kids were in for!

The pate museum is one of the largest transportation-related museums in the world, complete with ships, military aircraft, space capsules and hundreds of cars/trucks...even a collection of rail cars from the glory years! Became the site of the largest automotive-related swap meet in the world, it's since been moved out to texas motor speedway in roanoke due to it's shear size!

pate museum of transportation fort worth texas.

I took student trips to the pate four times a year for many years! And about once a year, I took a group to swepco headquarters for a tour!
 
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Michael,

for a guy almost as old as I am, your memory amazes me!....what recall!!!

I read the preface to the book and found it to be interesting enough to save it to my favorites so I can go back to it once in awhile (when time permits).

Art dickerson, started with swepco back in the 50's I believe, as a salesman, worked his way up through the ranks and eventually bought swepco from the pate family and their partners for full ownership late in 1989; it has been in the dickerson family ever since with art's legacy passed down to his children. Under art's direction, the company has thrived and now sells in over 80 countries around the world. Art is still active and is the chairman, quite a few of his children still steer the company including four of his sons who are Robert: president & ceo, paul: senior vice president & coo and "a.j." director of purchasing, another one, david (title unkown) is in charge of the computer systems and all e-data commerce programs and systems. I didn't know for sure if you were acquainted with them, so that's just an update for you.

I took a look at the pate museum link you supplied and am relatively sure that the red buick convertible is a 1954 rather than a 1957 as stated. My Dad bought a new buick in 1955 and I remember that it was a toss-up between a new 1954, and the new 1955 which he finally chose - - the grille sure looks 54-ish to me.

I also bought a pair of boots at the justin boot factory while there one year and still have them. Several times while there, we went to "nina's papaguayo" for the best mexican food (and marguerita's) around, it was north & east of the factory, close to the river.....that was back in the days when I still drank, so I'm lucky I can still remember it!

I haven't been back to ft. Worth in the last 4 years due to one reason or another, but I'm told that there are a lot of changes at the office, it's not like the old adobe block-looking building anymore, but that was already re-done about the time I started back in '85. Most of the interior has been completely remodeled as well. This year they are celebrating their 75th year in business, having started out in the midst of the great depression.....quite a success story.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to go over this, hope it was good enough to stir up some more of those good ol' memories for you!

Best regards
 
Well dick...stuff from hundreds of months ago I got no problem with recall. That's even better after the heartawhack and all tha drugs I suk down every day. But it's right now, yesterday, and last week that are sometimes a blank for me!

The dickerson name sounds familiar. No doubt I knew about that back when! I retired from the college in 1985 and went into private business on the west side of ft.worth but kept my ties to the north side (I lived out in grapevine/colleyville). I got punished by "the company" and sent to lalaland in 1992. Didn't wanna go back after retirement since tha weather in tejas suks! My daughter and grands live up close ta texarkana.

Papaguayo is one of hundreds of messkin joints there on the north side I usta frequent! Of course, the turista destination is Joe t. Garcia's...prolly the worst dam buncha grub I ever ate! But turistas think it's "quaint" and gets all tha puff from the chamber of commerce, locals won't be caught dead there no matter what the coc thinks!

Any o' them Mom/pop grocery tiendas along north main got better grub and are the real deal! Sunday mornin' hangover cure is menudo from one of 'em! The roachcoach tacotrucks are even better! Killer tater an' ayg tacos!

Stockyards/niles city was really sumthin' in the 50's/60's/70's...now it's just disneyfied beyond belief! Boot repair shops, tattoo parlor/bars, saddle shops, and whore houses! I had tons of them red clay bricks used in the swift packing killin' complex I salvaged and used in landscape projects! Them bricks came outta the coal mine area at thurber, west of ft. Worth, same bricks ya find in them streets downtown leadin' to tha courthouse.

That refinery on 28th at tha head of north main ya could smell 15 miles away, that was old u.s. Hiway 183 before I-20 went in. The smell of the refinery wuz like fresh-baked bread to me azza kid passin' through! And it looked like daylite all nite due to the gas flares that burned constant! No doubt some of swepco's raw product came outta them pipes and tanks!

The very first aerosol roller chain lubricant we ever saw was some swepco samples that aggie pate jr. Took outta the trunk of his car when he stopped by the shop on occasion buying sparkplugs for the kid's rides! He would always hand out all kindsa stuff when he came by! Really nastee stuff but by golly it stuck on them scooter chains! Sum kinda solvent-dosed version of 140wt. Gear lube dosed with moly, graphite, and who knows what! Made for conveyors and chains used in mining and steel mills I remember! Even naptha/mineral spirts wouldn't cut through it after the carrier solvent had flashed off!
 
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Hey michael!

Yep, you sure have been around ft. Worth awhile, I know of all those places, including the Joe t. Garcia's that you mentioned - and it wasn't that great, but it was packed with non-locals when I was there.

The roller chain lubricant that you mentioned is no longer made in the aerosol form, although there is a "chain & cable lube" which probably took it's place. To confirm your memory, the roller lube is a modified 140 wt gear oil - type product, and has a lot of tactifier in it. It is not a very fast moving item since most of the heavy track machinery is now pre-lubed or doesn't take a lube at all now. Oddly enough the major tool manufacturer's buy it by the multiple drum for use in their ratchet wrenches....who in the world would ever think of a roller lube being used in that kind of application. Many times a product is named for use for a certain thing and can be used for many others, sometimes naming a product "turbine oil" for example will limit it to use in turbines, but naming it "industrial/turbine oil" opens up for a lot of applications.

I couldn't say for sure that the refinery you mentioned ever supplied swepco with any materials as I am not privy to that kind of information. I do know that they do not use anything which is imported from the mid-east.

It's been nice reminiscing with you about times back then, and I'm sure glad that you are on board with Jeff and handling so many different issues on your tech section.

As far as boric acid is concerned, it is also a fact that it is the best deterrent against cockroaches. I found that out when I lived in hawaii (for 10 years). Cockroaches are a way of life there, it doesn't matter how clean you or your wife keeps house, you are gonna get them. Found out if you go to the drug store and get the boric acid powder which comes in a pretty good size container, then spread it around under the sinks and behind the cabinets...the roaches crawl over it, then lick it off their legs and it dries them out from the inside...much more effective and cheaper, and safer than insecticides. So do you figure chupacabras are part cockroach? ..... this might be an all-time scientific breakthrough !

best regards
 
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