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towpainter3

towpainter3

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Should we as consumers believe the brochures and parts counter sales gimmics that valvoline is putting out.
I was at a/zone and saw one of these yesterday. It had 2 vials of oil on it one claiming to be virgin oil and the other 50% recycled oil and 50% virgin. The sales pitch, can you tell the difference?
As a consumer, I do know that filtration systems and technology has come a long way since the days of used motor oil in quarts but how the heck do they remove all the black color from the carbon and other goo that comes from used motor oil.
If they can do this with gauranteed results, hell I'd be for it.
We all know that some day the dino poop is gonna dry up.
Like the old saying , if ya dont know, ask someone who does!!!
The problem I saw yesterday,the 50/50 oil is higher than the virgin stuff. Yea I know they are going for the tree hugggin hippies but come on, it should be cheaper. Shouldnt it?
 
Thanks for the info, I read alot of the mfg's page and it seems to be a pretty good product. Then I read some of the stuff on the autoblog page. Where did some of these people get there education? Walmart or what? I'm no scholar,but damn!!! The gramatical skill level of some people just blows my mind.
I'm 42 and the future scares the hell outta me!!!
 
My vote is still no for recycled/ re-refined motor oil. It's been around for years. My grandfather used it for the old fords that got him to work. The nice cars for the vacations and family visits got the good stuff.

I'm sure the process has come a long way from settling tanks, clay filters and separators; but I'm sure a lot of other stuff gets in the oil at disposal too. Atf, gear oil, solvent, and the motor oil all go in the same drum for most of us right? I don't think "quickie lubes" and most repair shops make a distinction either; and I doubt it all comes out in the wash. I foresee separate tanks for different waste oils at the shops if this catches on.

Link:re-refined engine oils | nebraska oil and lube
 
Very true on the 1 drum for everything deal, hell it happens in my shop!!
If I had a vehicle that spewed oil from the pipes or from every gasket I might try it too, but for now I'm stickin with virgin, or at least as close as I can get lmao!!!!
 
I purposely did not respond to the original post from towpainter3 because I wanted to see what kind of responses it would generate. Now that some time has elapsed, I'm ready to throw my two-cents worth in.

Greg's response was that the recycling process does not filter out a lot of the "junk" that is in the oil, which is a fine argument against using it vs. Using an oil made from "virgin" stocks. Along with that, I might add that even though the oil might Meet the latest specifications e.g. Sm or sn, it does not mean that it meets them .... And then some. Remember that sm & sn rated oils are already lower in additives than the sl was, so when using a questionable stock along with the lower additized formula, what do you get? I for one would not use it in any equipment I have (which is pre-2007), or for that matter recommend it for engines requiring sm or sn.

A few years ago union 76 (now a subsidiary of bp) came out with their brand of recycled oil called "firebird," from what I saw of it, it did not go over very well, even tho they were giving away 5 quarts to anyone who wanted it at the race track we usually go to. All of the race car owners did not accept it for use in their $35,000.00 engines.

Looking at a display of recycled oil and virgin oil and asking the question "can you tell the difference" is in my opinion a very stupid remark, and the person who decided to market it that way is challenging the mentality of the prospective customer. It is not in the least scientific by any means.
 
Used oil is only good for rustproofing my scouts panels and frame..no way im using that shit in my engine...I know the teevee shows have been promoting recylced oil..like I believe any of that...I consider only 2 oils...swepco and rotella...I add the swepco additive to the rotella..no issues and I aint changing..too damn old for change
 
I don't know much about his subject but I've seen the ads at az as well. One thing valvoline claims is it's a much easier process to re-establish old oil than crude. It's 50/50 mixture that goes through the same refining process.

I'm in the oil and gas business and if you actually saw what oil/hydrocarbons... Starts out as you wouldn't be questioning technology to refine used oil. Saltwater, fracturing sand, acids and various other chemicals used to break up the structure are just example of what are found. I don't think questioning the recycling process is a valid argument at all. As far as quality and rating of the of oil, that's up to valvoline, not the fact that it's used oil, right?

This is just like anything else that's new. We're all used to doing it one way and anything else sounds wrong. If they made a recycled oil that had the rating and additive pkg that I want in my IH, I wouldn't mind using it all.

I agree that their "tell the difference" marketing is a little stupid but we're not your average market either.

Again, I'm far from an expert but wanted to share my opinion.

Jason
 
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