Line Ticket Location???

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Azrael0069

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I have done some research and found that while my Scout II is a 77 it was built in 08/76. I am the 3rd owner and the 2nd owner was my Dad and its been in the family a long time and I can't recall ever finding the ticket on the truck anywhere. An internet search says to look under the cowl panel...... Where is the cowl panel???

Thanks in advance guys.
 
I thought so, but there isn't anything in there, I pulled out the glove box to make sure it wasn't stuck onto the outside of it and nothing has ever been glued or stapled to it. I figured since the build date is in 1976 it would be under the cowl panel, but I don't know where the cowl panel is???
 
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Yeah stuff like that mysteriously disappears in 30 some odd years. I can see the witness Mark where it was on the back of my pickup plastic glove box but it was long gone.
 
azrael0069 said:
I have done some research and found that while my Scout II is a 77 it was built in 08/76. I am the 3rd owner and the 2nd owner was my Dad and its been in the family a long time and I can't recall ever finding the ticket on the truck anywhere. An internet search says to look under the cowl panel...... Where is the cowl panel???

Thanks in advance guys.
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The location of the lineset supplied with the vehicles varied over time and according to which production plant they came from. Sometimes they were part of the delivery paperwork and handed to the customer at the time the sale paperwork was concluded.

On some Scout II, they were in a clear vinyl (or mylar??) pak and taped/adhered to the cowl under the hood adjacent to where the vacuum diagram label is stuck.

Sometimes they were inserted under one of the seats and stuck between the spring and the cushion material.

Sometimes they will be found taped to the rear of the glovebox insert.

Sometimes they were taped to one of the overhead visors.

On some two door pickups, I've found 'em stuck in the seat backrest once the lock bolts were removed to allow the seat back to pivot forward.

Sometimes they simply "forgot"!!

At the point in time when your rig came offline (8/76), the federal 17 digit vin system was fully implemented and the uniform "titling" rules had kicked in for all 50 states which delineates the actual "year model". So an 8/76 production date would certainly be titled as a '77 in all states at that point in time,...but not so for production dates prior to that! This was a huge change in the domestic automotive industry at that point in time. And to further confuse, some of the southern states still did not adhere to the federal regs at that point as they had only "registration" laws and no title law.
 
azrael0069 said:
how do I go about getting another one, or can I?
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Both binder books and super Scout specialist (both are "business friends" and personal friends of ihon), can fix you up with a lineset. But...in some cases, they are simply not available for some serial or vin numbers due to gaps in the ihc historical archives.
 
Your vin number and $20 (I think).

The lsts are stored on microfiche (still, I think) at a historical society with other IH historical documents.
 
robertc said:
your vin number and $20 (I think).

The lsts are stored on microfiche (still, I think) at a historical society with other IH historical documents.
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Linesets are archived in several formats actually. Including actual print copies as they were printed at some point during the production process on multi-page, carbon paper forms.

Many of the archives are on microfilm reels, that format was never converted to microfiche.

Due to deterioration of the microfilm format over the years, sometimes the documents are illegible when you actually see a print reproduction. Microfiche being a more modern format, May have deterioration issues also. The print archives can be incomplete with large gaps due to damage, file relocation over the years, etc. Thus in some cases it's simply not possible to obtain a reproduction lineset. These are cataloged by the original vehicle serial number and later by the vin number once that format became a standard for the American automotive industry circa 1973>1975.

This link takes you to the largest repository of historical information regarding. In recent years the collection has grown with the additional relocation of additional archives from International Harvester intellectual properties, inc., the entity that controls the licensing of copyright material:

mccormick-International Harvester company collection of the wisconsin historical society
 
michael mayben said:
linesets are archived in several formats actually. Including actual print copies as they were printed at some point during the production process on multi-page, carbon paper forms.
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Mismatched my "technologies" between microfiche and microfilm, sort of amazed that there are still readers for this material in working order... Though libraries have "tons" of stuff still on micrfiche and microfilm.

Yes, lsts were printed... And provided to the new owner as part of the "owner packet".

Based on the "notes" on some lsts that people have posted, a copy followed the vehicle down the assembly line.

I have 2 original copies of the LST for my t/a that I received when I took delivery.

Also included were the pieces of metal that were in the original keys (key ring hole) and are stamped with the "key code" for cutting a new key...

In the case of my 73 t/a, there is a very small LST scotch taped to the back of the glove box (you have to "flip" the box completely open - past the spring "stops". IH did not do this on Scout iis afaik.). I could read it at one time, but I would need a magnifying glass now.
 
I appreciate the info, so its either stuck to the glovebox or its behind the glove box on the back of the firewall on the inside of the cab if it is still there?
 
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