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Front Axle Widths? Dana 27 vs. Dana 30 ?


New member
Hello All,

I am considering different axle options for converting a 1965 Scout 80 (152 4 cyl) from 2WD (which it is currently) to 4WD. I will be keeping the 4 cylinder and running a stock Scout driveline.

I wanted to ask if the front axle widths (WMS to WMS) of the

- Scout 80 Dana 27 (1961-1965)
- Scout 800 Dana 27
- Scout 800 Dana 30 are all the same?

I know the Dana 30 is the more stout axle, but seems harder to find in my neck of the woods. Also, this truck is unlikely to see serious off road action.

The wheel "track" (width between the wheels) looks wider and better visually on the 800s in photos, but just wanted to ask if that's because the wheels are simply wider or if the front axle is wider as well?

Also, are all the 1961-1965 Dana 27s the same? Or are some more desirable?

Are the spring perch locations between all of the above, the same as well?


Ian (Buffalo, NY)

Robert Kenney

Super Moderator
Generally 61-65 as well as 800 27's are the same. Depending on how complete the axle is, the brakes could be different.
I have a tight 61 Scout 80, Dana 27 FA 4.27 R&P in my shop looking for a home. Freight from CA to NY would likely kill that possibility.
I could measure the dim you want.
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