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72 Ole Yeller

Scooter

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Well, since I started doing some wrenching on this 72 Scout II, I figured I just might keep it and start up this build thread. I have been eye balling this thing for about 10 years before I got ahold of it, and never knew who owned it. The short version of story is that the guy who owned it stopped in front of my man cave and we got to talking. And he towed it down here only to find out the transmission has gone sour. No forward gears what so ever. But, reverse worked just fine. The 345 ran great but couldn't actually drive it due to a funked up trans, and I aint driving it backwards around town lol




This is after a bath the weekend I paid $500 it. No top and missing passenger seat. And the driver seat was so beat to crap that the spring cushions poked ya in the butt when ya sit in it.



**edite**
as a side note, the typical p.o. Hack work seems to be limited so far in comparison of what I have seen in other rigs. I was very pleasantly surprised to find that some one did a Dana 44(with discs) axle swap into this ole yeller. Also a new rear drive shaft has bee installed. The front drive shaft appears to be oem stock. There is also a 1.5" body lift. It's also rolling on 33"x12.5x15 shoes. And what appears to be stock leafs.
 

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Last weekend I cleaned out the front half of the tub.



And the ole p.o. Virus hacked up seat frames going into scrap pile. I currently have another decent set of frames that are sitting on the rear bench seat in the above photo.:icon_wink:


Over all, the floor is in fair condition. Even considering this rig has been sitting out in rain and shine for a number of years with out a top. Some surface rust. I have seen a hole lot worse, even on newer scouts.
 

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Along with cleaning out the front of the inner cab last weekend, I drained the trans fluid. Ended up with a good whiff of burnt fluid as soon as I cracked the pan



I spent this weekend pulling out the tranny and transfer case.




I'm kinda loving my over head electric hoist. Which I'm currently using to hold up the back end of the motor


I good cleaning of the mess and then I can start pulling things apart. Since money is funny at the moment and monopoly funds don't exactly work very well, my shopping list of parts will be shrinking somewhat in December and first part of February. So this will be a drawn out rebuild of the trans
 

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Slowly moving along as I start taking care of the p.o. Neglected general maintenance items, like changing fluids. Drained oil out of both axles and just finished buttoning up the rear-end with fresh oil. Along with an added bonus. All I need to say is = awesome :dita:





Now it's time to give the front end the same treatment. And since I currently have the tranny/transfer case out sitting on the bench, the motor oil pan will be pulled in favor of a new gasket and fresh oil & filter.
 

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Yeah, diamond in the ruff. Will be nice once I'm actually driving it. The motor itself runs great at idle. Since the auto trans has gone sour before I got ahold of it, I never was able to actually drive it. Probably be about February when I'm able to finish up rebuilding the trans and transfer case. The t.c. May not need a rebuild, but knowing how the ole p.o. Virus May kick in, I May end up sticking my foot up my own butt if I don't do anything to it while it's out.
 

Scooter

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Finished the front axle fluid and cover change. With the numbers stamped on the ring gears and the pinion, it appears to be 3.97 ratio.
 

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Finally stuck the tranny up on the bench and separated the t.c. Pulled off the adapter, exposing the governor assembly. Never fails in getting caught with the p.o. Virus bug, due to this transmission being worked on at least once or twice in it's lifetime. No wonder this tranny failed. Lots of snot from the gooey sticky crap used for sealant. :yikes: the one major unit in any vehicle that the chit should never be used in.
Here's where I'm at now.

The adapter will be replace with a spare that I have sitting on the bench. The red circle out lines one of the cross member bolt holes that is almost too wobbled out for a heli-coil insert. And a shot of the front pump


The way things are going so far, it's looking like I May have to replace the sprag with a bolt in type. Won't know for sure until I dig that far down.
 

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Guts are now spilled out over the bench. Looks like I get lucky on the sprag and the housing. May not be so lucky on the forward clutches. Apparently the p.o. Ran this thing short on fluid while pushing it hard. Clutch material wiped clean off it's surface. And all the steels are discolored from the heat.




Aint this a purdy sight to see?


The other clutches aint so bad



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as a side note - after following a thread on another forum by a member who also frequents this forum too, I May incorporate a few things into this build from what he has done. the torqueflite a-727 transmission
 

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Scoutboy74

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Wow kimball! That poor thing got pretty toasty. It pains me to see a tf get so abused, but I know you'll have the ol' gal whipped into shape before much longer.
 

Scooter

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Yea, it was left in the fryer a bit too long. The po is a nice guy, but he don't chit about maintenance and up keep. Darn thing was two quarts low when I got ole yeller. He panicked when I through out low figure of 400 for the whole thing, until I showed him that the tf was dead in the water. Wish I could say that I would get this back together soon. But it will be at least a month or two before I can actually afford to buy the rebuild kit. At the rate things go with the ole p.o. Virus, I am looking into doing a rebuild of the transfer case too. If I don't do it now while it's out, I be kicken myself in the arse later on. In the meantime, my own training continues.
 

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Well being out of town for a few days with family, I almost didn't want to come home. I'm still full from all the turkey and prime rib I stuffed myself with. Almost to the point that I might have needed a loadstar to transport my arse home :icon_exclaim:

spent a few hours yesterday and today replacing the exhaust manifold gaskets. Turns out the manifolds them selves are a bit whooped and cracked. Sigh, yet another p.o. Bug.

The passenger side manifold:



Driver side - notice the crack down the collector from the flange?


Here's one shot of the replacement passenger side manifold

The replacement manifolds came off a 69' 304 IH motor. Which is why it's missing the smog fitting screwed into the one port
 

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Haven't done much in the last couple weeks. I just ordered the trans rebuild kit last night. This rebuild is going to be a semi drawn out rebuild due to ordering parts when money becomes available. I will be doing a few minor upgrades in the process. Plus, I'm all green when it comes to actually rebuilding the trans myself. With all the resources available, I have been learning myself guuuder. In the mean time, I had picked up a used trans/transfer case combo last month, that I'm basically wishing I didn't get. My theory on it was to install the used trans as a temp solution, while I rebuild the original tranny. Just so I can get ole yeller mobile and have something to drive. Needless to say, I'm currently unhappy with that purchase of the used trans, since the guy didn't have the torque converter at the time and has yet to return my posts, emails, texts about it. Now that I'm tired of sitting on my hands waiting, I'm off to go purchase a torque converter this morning and start installing it this weekend. I need something to drive. I'm tired of walking and asking for rides from friends.
 

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Well, since I got sick and tired of waiting for the guy to respond back to me about the torque converter for this used transmission I recently picked up, I bit the bullit and purchased a new torque converter yesterday. Filled it with two quarts of oil and stuffed it in it's location. At the moment this used tranny and new converter is under ole yeller waiting to be bolted in place. I just might get this thing drivable soon after Christmas.

Here's a shot of the converter stuffed in it's proper place with at least a half inch of space to the bell housing to block surface
 

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you driving this thing yet?
Almost. Maybe by Sunday evening. Few little bugs to unkink. One is installing a new ignition switch that I have sitting on the dash. I did start and run it for about a minute or two last weekend. Ran out of time to roll the a$$ end out the door . Didn't wanna smoke out the cave and building.

Chico, I was thinking of ya a couple days ago. You still interested in a frame? I need to thin out my heard. I have way too many projects going on. And I don't think I will ever get a chance to work on my 74 rolled Scout.
 

chico

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My Scout has been posted up on the side of the house as of late. Been to busy to do anything with it. But I think I'm gonna start back up again. Im interested for sure. I was just talkin to the wife the other night about getting back to workin on it. I need some rear quater pannels to if you have any.
 

Scooter

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Don't think I have any rear quater panels decent enough. Not sure if any of the local babs guys have any either.

Well crapola on a pooper scooper. Ole yeller threw me a curve ball this evening. Got to my cave and thought I try and do something with the ignition switch, since it was being finicky. I tried swapping it out for one I had laying around. Turns out that the spare is for a standard non tilt column and ole yeller has tilt. As I was putsing with the original one it decided to fall apart in my hands with a few springs flying around :yikes: why am I not surprised? Anyways, a few clicks later, a new one is on order and should be here in a couple days.
 

chico

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I didn't know 72 had tilt... Crazy. Nor would I think the ignitions would be different because of such. Well good thing for the enternet. :icon_idea:
 

Scoutboy74

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Could have been swapped in from a later Scout, like much of the other parts that are currently in ol' yeller, but yes, the saginaw columns with remote-mounted ignition switches require that the switch matches the column style... Ie tilt vs. Non-tilt.
 
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