Thanks Mike, your the man. Hey, I have not forgotten about you on my little red Scout issue. I have it running pretty good so I have moved on to rebuilding my 392 for my Travelall. Should finish this weekend (I post some pics when I'm done, looking pretty nice) and I'll get back to expierementing with the 4 cylinder and let you know my results. I did have an old shop manual for the Scout, but I need one for this 69' Travelall, got one?