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Old 06-12-2019, 06:14 PM   #76
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To clarify, my multi-meter is a cheapo and not adjustable. When I set it to 200 ohms setting and touch the probes I get 1.5, not zero. Does that change your thoughts on the health of my coils?
Is that the lowest setting for ohms on your meter? So were you seeing readings across the coil terminals of say 3.0 and then subtracting 1.5 from that? Yeah, now that you've told me this I'm not having much faith in your meter. The jury is still out on the coils.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:30 AM   #77
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Does the little mark on the top of the dist cap have any relevance? Its approx 1/2" clockwise from the slot the metal tab fits into on the perimeter of the cap (see pic)

Also, I have two dust caps. The one that was on the dist when I bought it and it was running, seems to have been modified a little. The edge/lip has been removed from one side. Makes me think that a PO may have had some issues and modified it?(see pic). They both seem to fit nice and tight, cant tell any difference.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:56 AM   #78
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Is that the lowest setting for ohms on your meter? So were you seeing readings across the coil terminals of say 3.0 and then subtracting 1.5 from that? Yeah, now that you've told me this I'm not having much faith in your meter. The jury is still out on the coils.
Thats correct. With setting on 200 ohms and crossing the probes I get 1.5 and when testing the coils was getting in the 2.9-3.4 range.

I can stop by NAPA later today and see if they have a decent multi-meter just to cross-check them.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:15 AM   #79
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Ok. That makes me feel better. I once again think the values you arrived at can be trusted well enough for our purposes. The coil primary resistance should be 1.5 ohms. Two of your coils were right there, with the other one being a little low, but not necessarily a deal breaker. The secondary resistance of all three fell within the range of 6 to 15 thousand ohms. Being good on both of those two fronts doesn't bless a coil. It still needs to pass the visual test for producing a strong spark.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:32 AM   #80
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The beast is ALIVE!!!!

Bad condenser. It was a the brand new condenser I put in with the points when I bought the vehicle. I put in the new cap and rotor - no change with the crappy spark. Decided to put the original condenser in just to rule that out and that did it. Spark looked great and consistent. It starts and runs and idles, just need to set timing with the light and adjust fuel level in carb bowl. Then its on to the brakes.

I cant thank you guys enough for all the suggestions, tips, guidance, wisdom, and humor.

Can someone tell me what I should aim for with the timing light? I thought I saw someone say 10 degrees BTDC should be the sweet spot?
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:44 AM   #81
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Yahtzee! I'd shoot for 10 and start logging some miles. Most of these engines will tolerate that much advance with no trouble, but no two engines are exactly the same. Charge up some steep hills with the throttle pinned and listen hard for any pinging. If you hear any, then you need to back the timing off a couple degrees. If you don't hear any and you'd like to experiment, you can advance the timing in small increments and do the hill charge after each adjustment until you hear some ping. That's when you know you've gone a little too far and need to back off a fuzz.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:16 AM   #82
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Awesome, cant wait to hit the road with this thing finally!!! Thanks!
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:10 PM   #83
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Congrats for zeroing in on it. Good job sticking with it. These things can be elusive and frustrating.
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