IH PARTS AMERICA
Click Here!

Go Back   IH PARTS AMERICA > Tech Forums > Axle Tech Questions
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Photo Gallery IH Store Home

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2007, 02:37 PM   #1
dingle dave
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Member Number: 298
Posts: 4
Default WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Hi this is my first post(I,m a virgin so be easy on me)

I,m also new to the Scout world. I purchased a 79 Scout II in the spring and I'm hooked on it already. I plan on doing a SOA in the fall and run tires 37" or bigger.

So I want to upgrade the axles without loosing the tight turning radius. Most of the trails in my neck of the woods are narrow so the narrower the axle the better.

I'd like to run d60 front and back but don't know what donor vehicles to look for.

Also is narrowing an axle expensive?????? Does anyone sell a do it yourself kit????????

79 Scout II, 304, 727

dingle dave

thanks in advance
dingle dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2007, 12:24 PM   #2
ihpartschad
IHPA General Manager
 
ihpartschad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 3
Location: Loma Rica, CA
Posts: 933
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

You should be looking for a passanger side drop Dana 60, most commomnly found in early model dodge and Chevy trucks if you go with a Chevy just pick up the 14bolt rear at the same time. You can narrow anything you want but the costs go up as you will need to have custom axles made. I doubt you would gain enough out of narrowing the axles to justify cutting them down. Either way this is not something that should be done by anyone that isn't very skilled. It also requires some speciatly tools.

Furthermore if you are looking to run 37's plan on either adding some lift over and above the SOA or doing a fair amount of sawzall work.

Welcome to the addiction!!
__________________
Chad Maycroft
IH Parts America[/B][/SIZE]
CPT Crawler Proven Technology
ihpartschad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2007, 06:06 PM   #3
Rock Tractor
IHPA Tech Moderator
 
Rock Tractor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 46
Location: Lockeford
Posts: 798
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Instead of narrowing, you could run some hummer wheels. They have 6 or 7" backspacing.
__________________
Just your average Injected 392 Scout II on 60's and 42's with a Wheel Base stretched to 113"
KJ6FOR

Dysfunctional RockCrawlers
NorCal Scouts
DANGER RANGER RACING
Rock Tractor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2007, 02:07 PM   #4
dingle dave
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Member Number: 298
Posts: 4
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Ok, I bought a 1-ton 14bolt this weekend and am now looking for a Dana 60 or I'll even run a 8 lug 10bolt front for now.

My question now is how much of my original stuff will work. Driveshafts,brakelines and cables,steering and anything else I forgot?

I know I've got to move the shock mounts and back perches. I'm just trying to be as prepared as possible.

Thanks in advance
dingle dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2007, 07:02 AM   #5
ihpartschad
IHPA General Manager
 
ihpartschad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 3
Location: Loma Rica, CA
Posts: 933
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

I would avoid the 10 bolt, not as many options there but if you already have one then go for it. Bacisally nothing from your old set up will work anymore.the steering box is fine but you need to go to cross over steering. Instead of moving your rear perches just do a reverse shackle. Also I would look into running a taller shock tower and getting longer shocks. You need new ones anyway. Get stainless brakelines while your at it. All can be had from Jeff.
__________________
Chad Maycroft
IH Parts America[/B][/SIZE]
CPT Crawler Proven Technology
ihpartschad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2007, 04:16 AM   #6
dingle dave
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Member Number: 298
Posts: 4
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Will my driveshafts work or will the anything work from the donor vehicle(Chevy 3/4 ton pick up).
dingle dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2007, 10:36 AM   #7
ihpartschad
IHPA General Manager
 
ihpartschad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 3
Location: Loma Rica, CA
Posts: 933
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

No, you will need to have ones either made or cut down.
__________________
Chad Maycroft
IH Parts America[/B][/SIZE]
CPT Crawler Proven Technology
ihpartschad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #8
Craig
Senior Member
 
Craig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 5
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 1,308
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Quote:
Originally Posted by dingle dave View Post
will my driveshafts work or will the anything work from the donor vehicle(Chevy 3/4 ton pick up).

I depends on the t-case your going to run. I still have the dana20 and took a front drive-shaft off a Jeep cherokee 88-91 appx. They have a cv joint. So get the yoke off the np231 too. This will bolt right up to the later model dana20 with 26 spline (early has 10 spline) I then ground off the ends and welded on a new tube to the length I needed. Worked great and no vib's either at70mph with 37" put this into goolge to get a good write up on the pbb driveshaft 101 siteirate4x4.com
Craig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 11:13 AM   #9
Matt Main
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Member Number: 446
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 94
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Im in the mode of searching for axles for my '71 800B. I was taking a look over at the binder bulletin board, and in another thread there, someone posts "don't forget a 9" out of an early Bronco. 65" wms I believe and 5x5.5 like the Scout."

how accurate is this, is my question. Are the leaf spring mounting pads in the correct location? I know they are already spring over from Ford, so im just looking at this 9" as an option compared to a d60. Thanks for any info!!!
Matt Main is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 03:29 PM   #10
ihpartschad
IHPA General Manager
 
ihpartschad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member Number: 3
Location: Loma Rica, CA
Posts: 933
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

Nine inch is a pretty cool option, but no the spring perches are not in the correct location nor are the the correct width. The rear is easy though, the front is the difficult end.
__________________
Chad Maycroft
IH Parts America[/B][/SIZE]
CPT Crawler Proven Technology
ihpartschad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2008, 07:45 AM   #11
Matt Main
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Member Number: 446
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 94
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

I was just bascially referring to the rear at the moment. I was thinking a good set up would be a Ford 9" rear, and a d44 (Scout) front. As far as the wms measurements, im not too concerned about if its an inch or two, its the location of the spring perches. I guess those are relatively easy to remove and weld on new ones. I want to run something larger up front than the d30 becasue I want to go with 35" tires in the future and from what ive found out/been told, the d30 wont hold up too well with that large of tire, especially when powered by a v8. Anyway, thanks for the info
Matt Main is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #12
Matt Main
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Member Number: 446
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 94
Default Re: WHICH AXLE IS BEST???????????????

So, now that im going for a d60 for the rear, im seeing there are a lot of versions of it. Any pointers as to which ones to stay away from, ones better than others, etc.? Whats a good place to start? Thanks!
Matt Main is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:11 PM.