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Old 03-14-2018, 08:27 AM   #406
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Hello Scout enthusiasts! I found the forum while I've been on my search for my Scout. I've been looking for about an year at this point and have been lurking in the background on the forum for way too long so it's time to say hi.

Hopefully I can find my Scout soon so I can join in the project conversations, but in the meantime keep the information flowing. This site has been a great resource as I have been looking and driving different scouts in my search.

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Old 04-11-2018, 03:06 PM   #407
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Hey everyone, first time poster second time Scout owner. My name is Andy and I'm from Salem, Oregon. In highschool I had a 72 Scout II that I had to get rid of because the money well dried up... Last month I picked up a 77 Scout Terra with a 4 speed and a 304. I'm in with this one for the long haul so I'm going to be doing a complete rebuild over many many years, so my first question would be about brakes.

The current stock brakes are a little spongy, and the power steering pump is very noisy. I have been looking into the Hydroboost which I understand would take care of both issues, but any suggestions would be appreciated. I have no plans of lifting or going larger tires, but I would tow a dump trailer (small) from time to time, but like I said I'm going to own this thing forever.

Anyhow, thank you in advance and I look forward to the journey with all of you!

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Old 04-12-2018, 07:38 AM   #408
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Hey everyone, first time poster second time Scout owner. My name is Andy and I'm from Salem, Oregon. In highschool I had a 72 Scout II that I had to get rid of because the money well dried up... Last month I picked up a 77 Scout Terra with a 4 speed and a 304. I'm in with this one for the long haul so I'm going to be doing a complete rebuild over many many years, so my first question would be about brakes.

The current stock brakes are a little spongy, and the power steering pump is very noisy. I have been looking into the Hydroboost which I understand would take care of both issues, but any suggestions would be appreciated. I have no plans of lifting or going larger tires, but I would tow a dump trailer (small) from time to time, but like I said I'm going to own this thing forever.

Anyhow, thank you in advance and I look forward to the journey with all of you!

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Welcome Andy. This is not to dissuade you from going the hydro-boost route. If something is wrong with your power steering pump, replacements are common and easy to change out. That's after the fluid level has first been checked. As for your brakes, the hydraulic system needs to be entirely leak free at all points. The wheel cylinders at the rear drums are common leak points when subjected to neglect and abuse. Master cylinders can fail over time. It might just be a case of your system needing to be purged of residual air. What I'm getting at in a general way, is that I think you should first spend some time scratching beneath the surface of each of your mentioned problem areas to see if you can determine what the actual issue might be. I think a hydro-boost modification would serve you better if you had your existing brake and steering systems working as intended first rather than applying it in band-aid fashion. That's only my opinion. I've not performed that modification on any of my vehicles, so take it for what its worth.
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:26 AM   #409
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Welcome Andy. This is not to dissuade you from going the hydro-boost route. If something is wrong with your power steering pump, replacements are common and easy to change out. That's after the fluid level has first been checked. As for your brakes, the hydraulic system needs to be entirely leak free at all points. The wheel cylinders at the rear drums are common leak points when subjected to neglect and abuse. Master cylinders can fail over time. It might just be a case of your system needing to be purged of residual air. What I'm getting at in a general way, is that I think you should first spend some time scratching beneath the surface of each of your mentioned problem areas to see if you can determine what the actual issue might be. I think a hydro-boost modification would serve you better if you had your existing brake and steering systems working as intended first rather than applying it in band-aid fashion. That's only my opinion. I've not performed that modification on any of my vehicles, so take it for what its worth.
Thank you, and thats a good point! My system works fine (for a 77) I'm just thinking ahead looking at my existing master looking rough and my power steering pump being so noisy. I definitely do not want to just throw money at it, but I do want to restore this to be a reliable driver.
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:35 PM   #410
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Howdy,
My name is Randy and I知 located in Pagosa Springs Colorado. I picked up a 1969 800A with a 304 a few weeks ago. I replaced plugs, wires, condensor, and points. Got it running and it cut off on me a mile from my house. Nothing electrical will turn on. The wires i can see look pretty rotted. I知 thinking of installing a kwikwire harness.... Brings me to my first official question, where do most people mount the fuze block? I知 hesitent to mount a fuze block that isnt waterproof in the engine bay.

Oh, had a 77 travler a few years back with affordable EFI. Got rid of it when i needed money for school.

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Old 05-06-2018, 07:37 AM   #411
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My name is Randy and I’m located in Pagosa Springs Colorado. I picked up a 1969 800A with a 304 a few weeks ago. I replaced plugs, wires, condensor, and points. Got it running and it cut off on me a mile from my house. Nothing electrical will turn on. The wires i can see look pretty rotted. I’m thinking of installing a kwikwire harness.... Brings me to my first official question, where do most people mount the fuze block? I’m hesitent to mount a fuze block that isnt waterproof in the engine bay.

Oh, had a 77 travler a few years back with affordable EFI. Got rid of it when i needed money for school.

Thanks,
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Welcome Randy. Are you planning a lot of deep water fording? You're pretty much limited to somewhere under the dash or under the hood. In the meantime, you can pretty easily trace out your voltage path from the battery into the cabin with a cheap incandescent probe light with alligator clip ground. You must make sure that your battery is fully charged first. Don't bother diagnosing electrical issues if there is any doubt about the condition of your battery. The first junction downstream from the battery is at the large terminal of the starter solenoid. If you get a light there, then the next junction is at the firewall bulkhead connector. Just keep tracing and probing from there until you find the point where the probe light doesn't come on. There's your fault.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:37 AM   #412
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I知 thinking of installing a kwikwire harness.... Brings me to my first official question, where do most people mount the fuze block? I知 hesitent to mount a fuze block that isnt waterproof in the engine bay.

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Welcome Randy
I recently rewired my own '72 scout II and, also, helped a fireman friend rewire his '69 scout 800. Both kwikwire kits, had the fuse block mounted on driver side under the dash
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The photo somehow got rotated. The old rubber boot is where steering column goes into. The funk empty hole right above the fuse block, was old wiring bulkhead connector, which I used to mount a rubber grommet in order to route the wires for engine compartment, headlights and taillights.
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Hey Y’all. I am starting on a 1976 International Pickup and just trying to get it running. Not doing anything fancy to it , just want to use it as a farm truck/off road vehicle.
Right now just trying to see if it will crank, which it only clicks and nothing else. The click sounds like it is coming from the starter but I am unsure since I am on the driver side and don’t have someone to verify.

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Welcome Randy
I recently rewired my own '72 scout II and, also, helped a fireman friend rewire his '69 scout 800. Both kwikwire kits, had the fuse block mounted on driver side under the dash
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The photo somehow got rotated. The old rubber boot is where steering column goes into. The funk empty hole right above the fuse block, was old wiring bulkhead connector, which I used to mount a rubber grommet in order to route the wires for engine compartment, headlights and taillights.
Thanks for the info on the fuze block install. On your friends 800 did everthing fit up under the clutch? There isnt as much realestate under the dash on this 800 as I remember on my travler.
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Thanks for the info on the fuze block install. On your friends 800 did everthing fit up under the clutch? There isnt as much realestate under the dash on this 800 as I remember on my travler.
On the fuse block install in my friends 800, it's mounted on the side of the transmission tunnel, just under that one hole where one of the OEM bulkhead connectors used to be. That photo, I posted earlier, was rotated somehow when I posted it.
I was trying to upload another photo, but my toy phone is being slow
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Hey Y誕ll. I am starting on a 1976 International Pickup and just trying to get it running. Not doing anything fancy to it , just want to use it as a farm truck/off road vehicle.
Right now just trying to see if it will crank, which it only clicks and nothing else. The click sounds like it is coming from the starter but I am unsure since I am on the driver side and don稚 have someone to verify.
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By the sound of it, one possible culprit is a low battery. Verify the condition of the battery. I been able to get a jump start when not enough juice was available to crank over the engine
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By the sound of it, one possible culprit is a low battery. Verify the condition of the battery. I been able to get a jump start when not enough juice was available to crank over the engine


Yes a dead battery but I did try to jump start it and that is when the clicking started.
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Yes a dead battery but I did try to jump start it and that is when the clicking started.
Might be too far gone to take a jump. I'd trickle charge over a period of time if it will accept that. If not, the battery is likely shot and will need to be replaced. You could have it load tested to be sure.

And just so this check in thread doesn't get sucked too far down the tech rabbit hole, you guys ought to start new threads under the appropriate tech subject headings if you have additional questions.
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Howdy, just joined and spotted this, now here i am checking in. Hope to find some info on my vintage ih i accuired a while back, and do some work on it.
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