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Old 12-21-2015, 07:11 PM   #16
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Thank you for your interest!!

I have been cutting rusty floor boards and rocker channels out. I'm beginning to wonder if another tub would be less work. I did clearance the fender openings for the larger tires and longer wheelbase.

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Old 12-22-2015, 09:41 AM   #17
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the po had welded the the trailer hitch to the gas tank skid plate

one day I'll figure out how to post more than one picture.
Wonder if it's the same po that I'm dealing with on my 72 yellow Scout. Had same exact type of welded on hitch system. But I wasn't replacing the bumper. So I carefully ground off some welds just so I could drop the skid plate and tank to service it.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:59 PM   #18
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I'm most interested in how you will adapt the body to the dodge frame. Is the engine position and position of the front axle of the dodge frame going to work with the Scout firewall, core support and wheel opening? I'm assuming that the front axle will be farther forward than stock for more clearance. Can't wait to see this! I'm considering doing something similar except with a first gen cummins and wondering if cutting the dodge frame and adapting the body will be the best way to go or if making major mods to the Scout frame will be better.
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:10 PM   #19
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I'm curious how the front axle placement, motor mounts and fire wall turn out too and yes the front axle will be moved forward in regard to the fender openings. The body mounts don't have to line up, they're just steel with a hole in them.

Do you plan on running the 6bt cummins? The weight and vibration would require serious strengthening of the Scout frame. Also there's the length of the engine. I would probably move the rad. Support forward or cut the firewall for clearance. Extra clearance I should say. The 6bt will fit but it is tight.

I thought about a diesel engine. The low end torque is awesome! The thing that changed my mind, other than the price of a used 6bt, was the noise. The people that have them say that they are always shutting the engine off just to hear other people on the trail.
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Old 12-25-2015, 09:38 PM   #20
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I have a '93 club cab long bed cummins that I don't use much because it's too big for my needs most of the time. The paint on it is a gonner and the frame is seriously rusty but salvageable from commuting to truckee for years, that was awhile ago but the damage is done. So the plan is to put it's running gear in a terra, do a cory smith extended cab on it and use it for commuting sometimes, towing the missus' travel trailer and mild offroading. I know what you mean about the noise and vibration but I'm used to it and I won't be building a crawler.
All that is why I'm so interested in your using the dodge frame. I did stumble across such a build yesterday or so and if I can find it again will post a link if that is allowed.
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:04 PM   #21
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Here's a picture that really shows the relationship of the body to the frame. I wonder if the body could be lowered further otherwise I'm not liking it for what I want to do. It might be fine for a crawler except that with more suspension lift you would be sitting pretty high. Then there's the frame and steering box sticking out past the body. Hmmm
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:19 PM   #22
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Good grief! What is that a 12" body lift?
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:47 PM   #23
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I'd be afeared of falling into the hole trying to work on the engine.
To get the body close to the frame, I think you will run into problems because of the way the frame kicks up too soon interfering with the front floor of the Scout. Then the frame rises again over the rear axle again too high for the rear floor. You can kind of see this in this photo. Seems like the thing to do is to lengthen the frame under the front floor to get that first rise past the step-up in the floor, then eliminate the rise over the rear axle. Of course, mental modifying is easy
then there's the front. The steering box can be moved back to the 2wd position. I think there's even holes in the frame for this and it eliminates the crack prone mounting plate. If you look up something like "steering conversion" on the first gen forum at dieseltruckresource.com you might find this. There's a guy there, I think jungle jim who sells suspension mounting parts.
Now that I have totally hijacked your thread, I hope some of this helps! If not, tell me to go away.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:51 PM   #24
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Any progress?
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:30 PM   #25
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Sadly no. Between work, shooting matches and working on my other cars, I haven't had time to work on it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:09 PM   #26
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I know how that goes!
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:38 PM   #27
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Well finally, some progress! I decided the rocker panel was too far gone to save. It didn't take much to get it cut free.Name:  20160421_102807.jpg
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Because of all the rust in the floor, the door opening wasn't square. That's what the padded bar is for. (no it's not the beginning
of a roll cage) the padding is 'cause I hit my head on it already. The new rocker is 2x2" square tube .090 wall.
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Old 07-03-2016, 06:29 PM   #28
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Some more progress:d:d I built a new body mount brace. Mine was completely rusted out. It is thicker than factory but I figure it'll take longer to rust out that way

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The big news today... I got the front end off!! Hooray!
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:59 AM   #29
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Look great! I always think of this piece of advice when I am working on my Scout;

"do you know how the ant eats the elephant?.....

One bite at a time...."
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:32 PM   #30
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And onward to the passenger side! It went a lot faster than the driver side. There was slightly less rust which helped but the main thing, I knew what to do!
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There was less rust on the floor so I made some "door" cuts to access the cross braces.
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I'm really happy with my rocker design. Not only is it simple but I gain about 2" of ground clearance from the bottom of the rocker to the ground!
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