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Old 12-19-2013, 05:21 PM   #1
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Default Thermostat confusion

Hi guys. I have a 392 I/c and at the present time it does not have a thermostat.
In trying to get one, I'm confused as to the various types. My housing has what I would call a two part housing.
So, I've seen this type;
nos - new old stock thermostat - International Scout parts
And, the Robert shaw type (which appears shorter).
I read somewhere that the bypass should be on the bottom (or top).
I'm totally confused. rod.

And this type http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/pronto-22...4394304&_uhb=1

Somehow the part number 419662-c1 keeps coming up.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:31 PM   #2
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Wouldn't hurt to give the guys a call up at IH Parts America to make sure. From my understanding, is that the Robert shaw thermostat should work for your application. If/when you call, you might refer to your post here. They don't bite.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:10 PM   #3
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Thanks scooter. Little bit hard to call as I'm downunder. Perhaps an email, though.
The other thing I like is "this can handle higher water flow than the ordinary stant thermostats."
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:15 PM   #4
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We don't allow posting information or links to competing businesses.

We do ask that you post any questions you need help with and the crew or member will take care of you and point you to the appropriate solution.
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My apologies. You May delete this thread then.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:27 PM   #6
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No problem. Understood about the phone. I was kinda hesitant in mentioning it. Another option would to post a parts tech question, that IH Parts America sells, in the products questions Section.

Robert did bring a point that I forgot to mention. IH Parts America does provide this forum for us to use. With all the support they provide in the IH community, I personally try to support them when I can. Hence my most recent order, with in the last half hour, through them of a transmission rebuild kit and transfer rebuild kit.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:11 PM   #7
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Default Re: Thermostat confusion

The Robert shaw design is correct for your engine as it has a bypass block-off function. The proper orientation inside the housing is with the copper pellet facing the pump driven coolant flow, or down in other words. Available for purchase via the IHPA store.

robertshaw 160,180, 195 degree thermostat for IH v8/4cyl - International Scout parts

Also, as an infrequent thread poster and relatively new forum member, your ignorance of the rule prohibiting reference to competing vendors is understandable and should be forgiven since you clearly meant no harm by it. You were merely seeking advice and clarification about a critical engine component. Now that you know better, I'm confident that it won't happen again. We are very protective of this forum and the supporting vendor for good reason, but our bark is generally worse than our bite. Please don't let this discourage you from asking questions about your IH vehicle in the future. We really are invested and interested in helping folks like you, both near and far, keep their ol' binders chugging along. Cheers!
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:11 AM   #8
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Thanks for your words.
My posting was only for illustration purposes. It was never intended to cause a ruckus.
Again I apologise.
I would like to post a photo of my fire truck, but will read the rules prior.
Thanks. Rod.
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Cool deal. I personally didn't think you were trying to promote the competition. Looking forward to seeing what you're working on. There is a section for readers rides. There are a few others on here that have fire trucks, including Jeff Ismail. Along with a few other members on here being from down under. And thanks to trever for confirming my stinking thinking
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thanks for your words.
My posting was only for illustration purposes. It was never intended to cause a ruckus.
Again I apologise.
I would like to post a photo of my fire truck, but will read the rules prior.
Thanks. Rod.
Good on ya! This sort of thing fortunately doesn't happen often and when it does, its usually the same scenario...no harm intended...just didn't know any better. That rule isn't exactly advertised in bold face letters at the top of the page either. Folks don't know what they don't know until they do know it. Know what I mean? Most tech forums on the owl-gorz interwebz aren't piggy-backing a web store like this one is. So its kind of a unique situation. Thanks for understanding.
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I was able to upload a photo into my album. Hope this is ok. Rod.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:48 PM   #12
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Does the thermostat sit in the top recess or down the bottom?

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Old 12-20-2013, 10:36 PM   #13
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First thing you should do is manually remove as much scale as you can from those pieces. Now, you've got the flat, machined gasket surface of the housing. Notice the slight groove around the circumference of the hole. That groove is where the the t-stat will rest with the copper pellet facing down, then the gasket and finally the upper water neck. Don't use rtv on the mating surface. Purchase two ihc thermostat gaskets along with the t-stat. They're dirt cheap. One gasket will go under the housing and one will go between the housing and the water neck. Get the 180 or 195 degree t-stat. I prefer the 195, but either will do fine for your needs.
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #14
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I did find this which supports what you guys have said. Thanks.
http://forums.IHPartsAmerica.com/att...stall-v1.2.pdf
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