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Old 05-31-2017, 02:43 PM   #16
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maybe new location.
How far south would folks be willing to travel? Travel is critical for me.
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:41 PM   #17
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I'm around Canyonville, so even as far down as Medford would be enticing to me. You're still out there in C.J., right? On a side note, did you see that the McGrew Trail there in your backyard has been closed indefinitely? The Nazis had been threatening for years and they, in conjunction with their jack-booted henchmen in BLM uniforms finally made good on the threat. What a bunch of bullshit. That was about the closest thing in Oregon to the Rubicon. Not that I'm equating the two, but it was a pretty fun trail with great camping alongside the North Fork of the Smith River at the end. Thinking about a future Binder Bee in perhaps a new, Southerly venue had me also thinking about an organized trail ride on Sunday as a bookend to the event. McGrew would have been a natural choice. At least I can say I got to run it a few times before the Nazis locked it up and threw away the key. Just getting so sick of more and more of our land being locked up and gated shut. This is still America last time I checked.
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Old 06-11-2017, 09:21 PM   #18
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Still at the junction. At least Josephine gets to keep the jail open with passage of the levy. Still hasn’t been determined how many sheriffs will now come to the IV. Basically have one patrolling 10am-4pm daily. Shit, a while back I called 911 at midnight because of tweakers in the neighborhood. I was told the sheriff’s office was closed. One advantage living next to war time vets is they won’t hesitate to blow some tweaker away.


I am cautious about traveling north. I need to stay close to home for health reasons. I can take part in planning.

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Old 06-12-2017, 02:02 PM   #19
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It is the wild, wild west there in Jo-Co, especially the more rural portions. I feel for ya. Here in neighboring Doug-Co the Sheriff Dept is fairly well staffed, but even so, they can still get stretched pretty thin at times. There's been a few murders up here recently, at least one of which was perp'd by a tweaker.

Back on the subject of the Bee, I'm selfishly all for it being closer to home. Anywhere in Douglas, Josephine, or Jackson counties would fit that bill. Perhaps a large campground or a county fairgrounds. As such, I could envision myself being involved with it on multiple levels. I'm sure our buddies in NorCal wouldn't be opposed to a shorter drive either.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:58 PM   #20
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Mcgrew is permanent.

Agreed with the NorCal thought. How much of the North would be interested traveling to the tri-county area, and could we get their support and assistance? Nothing like a new show to spark interest. I realized that with the Rallye vs. Western Regionals. Maybe Jeff would give us space on the forum for a private planning room.

7 Feathers would/could be kinda bitchin. About 3˝ hours south of Portland; 1˝ hours north of Methford.

JoCo fairgrounds is desperate for bucks. Not sure about onsite camping. The Illinois River Forks State Park has room for show-n-shine only. Its just south of CJ off 199, 40 minutes south GP and both I-5 exits. If only Mcgrew was open.

I put a call into a buddy who is a ranger with the forest service for info
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:38 AM   #21
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I visited my ranger buddies this morning at the forest service in cj. McGrew’s is open for special events use only. Base camp would be in O’brien.

Google The McGrew Trail
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:22 PM   #22
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There must be some type of permit process then. I should acknowledge that I was incorrect in my prior rant about the McGrew closure by attributing the closure to the BLM. The USFS is in fact the agency which oversees that trail. My opinion on the closure remains unchanged, no matter which agency implemented it.
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:32 AM   #23
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A group from Klamath Falls is running the trail this weekend for Father’s Day. They have reserved the trail for years.

Fees are nominal, but lots of red tape
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:18 PM   #24
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Trev. I guess no other interest. It's too bad.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:44 AM   #25
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I guess not. Kinda tough with no active "cells" in the region. Just lone wolves scattered hither and yon.
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:25 PM   #26
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I just stumbled on this thread. We attended the Binder Bee in 2010 and 2011. Antique Powerland was a pretty cool place to be at, but it is quite a drive from the SF Bay Area/Sacramento region. Medford/Grants Pass is a much easier drive from here, as I find the section of I-5 between Grants Pass and Springfield to be not very enjoyable to drive (did it twice this past summer).
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:39 PM   #27
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I am located in Southern Oregon and would be willing to host an event if we can get enough interest. We have a local off road group here,I am not affiliated with, that may be willing to host that type of event. I would host a scenic Crater Lake drive and show. If there is interest in the Medford area, I would be willing to help as well so it could stay on the I-5 corridor. Every time I take out my Scout I get thumbs up from other drivers, it would be nice to find similar minded people in the area. My wife and I went to the Fall Sierra Ralley several years ago and had a wonderful tour of old stagecoache stops and cemeteries rounded up with a great lunch. Let me know if there is any interest. We used to be with the IHSTO, but it looks like that group is gone, at least their website doesn’t seem functional.
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Old 02-27-2018, 04:41 PM   #28
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Is this offroad group you speak of made up of Binder owners/enthusiasts? I was a longtime Medford-ite until about 5 years ago. I still have a few Scout owner buddies down there. The whole time I Lived there, I always wished there would have been an active and organized local Binder club, but it never materialized. We had a quasi-group that we dubbed "Southern Oregon Scouts" (SOS), but it was never a formal organization as there were only four of us locals in the "club". It was more of a joke or novelty than anything else, except that we did organize two trail runs which managed to entice a handful of IHSTO members from their Northern stronghold down South to join in the fun.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:48 AM   #29
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I am located in Klamath Falls. I am not affiliated with any groups, off road or others, and I have no idea if the local off road group has any Scouts in it. I just thought they may be willing to host a group of scouts if we asked them. My scout is strictly on-road which is why I only offered to lead a group to Crater Lake or something like that. I have been involved with many different types of groups over the years, and they always end up with a few people doing most of the work until finally someone gets Tired and wishes to do other things and the group disbands (not trying to be a Debbie Downer here just stating the obvious). It would be nice to get a large group of IH enthusiast together and have some rod runs, I feel that shows pride in your product and a willingness to share with other people other than a car show which I find boring after doing them for so many years. I like seeing vehicles on the road and people having fun, who doesn't like ice cream, right. If we can get a few local IH vehicles in our area to do some close by runs perhaps it will grow into something. Andy Frei

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