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Old 04-17-2012, 09:02 PM   #31
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Only had a couple hours worth of daylight after work today but was still able to button up a couple things. I had the powder coater blast my exhaust manifolds after I had them trued at a machine shop. I mentioned to him that I was going to coat them with some vht exhaust manifold paint. He recommended using a propane torch to "cook" out all the water. It was amazing to see how much water was trapped in the metal. I was also amazed to see how fast they started to rust after being blasted.

In this picture you can see where the water is being cooked out.



Here's what they looked like after removing all the moisture.



And after removing all the surface rust.





Final paint count was 3 coats vht flat black and 3 coats vht clear. Included pic of the heat stove as well.







I was also able to get the new Holley 80457s carb installed. I chose this model after reading glowing reviews by mayben about how it runs 'almost perfect' right out of the box. I do have some concerns though as the fuel inlet seems to be awfully close to the water neck.

Here are some shots of the carb installed on the manifold.





In these photos you can see how close the inlet is to the water neck. It is only the width of a bic pen away.








I am assuming I can just rotate the inlet up and out of the way of the neck.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:54 PM   #32
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Re fuel inlet:

I do not know how the 80457 on my 392 came "out of the box" (10 years ago?).

The mechanic set it up like the stock version -- there is a straight brass fuel fitting (to metal fuel line) where the fitting / tube is on yours.

I assume you can change the fitting on your carb...

The stock 392 / 4bbl has a metal gas line -- from the carb, it makes a 180 degree turn and runs between the thermostat housing / intake / "under the carb" where it connects to the fuel filter.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:46 AM   #33
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re fuel inlet:

I do not know how the 80457 on my 392 came "out of the box" (10 years ago?).

The mechanic set it up like the stock version -- there is a straight brass fuel fitting (to metal fuel line) where the fitting / tube is on yours.

I assume you can change the fitting on your carb...

The stock 392 / 4bbl has a metal gas line -- from the carb, it makes a 180 degree turn and runs between the thermostat housing / intake / "under the carb" where it connects to the fuel filter.
Thx Robert. After checking out a couple other set ups I've noticed that all of them have a straight inlet fitting. I will most likely be going that route. The carb did come with some other fittings but I haven't checked them out yet.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:42 AM   #34
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Finally got my valve covers back from chrome. They turned out great. Wiring, hoses, power steering pump, fuel pump and smog pump to be installed this week. Here are a couple shots of the engine with most accessories installed.















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Old 06-22-2012, 05:59 PM   #35
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Mega props on this build man. I have the upmost respect for the work ur putting into this thing. If u need any parts let me know and I'd be happy to help
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:54 PM   #36
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mega props on this build man. I have the upmost respect for the work ur putting into this thing. If u need any parts let me know and I'd be happy to help
I greatly appreciate the kind words. This is the first car/truck I've ever built to this extent. I feel that scouts deserve this kind of props cause they are f ing sweet. Just trying to put together a tasteful ride that I, and other Scout enthusiasts, will appreciate.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:01 AM   #37
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Well my grandpa ran an IH dealership. My other grandpa only bought IH products like the farmall line and combines. My father cusses them all out for being old crappy farm rigs but still runs only IH equipment. And the buzz was passed on to me. I own 3 scouts. A loadstar. 2 farmall m's. And some odd equipment. And anyone who is willing to put the work into making an old beater great is bad a** in my books. This will truly be a kickass ride when ur done.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:49 AM   #38
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More progress on the engine:

got all, except smog canister, vacuum lines installed. Used braided stainless lines with some black fragola clamps and covers. I never want to touch another stainless steel braided line again!!!!! Had to put in a new egr valve as the old diaphragm wasn't working properly. Also had to replace the high temp thermal vacuum switch because the top nipple on the original "red" one broke off. The one I picked up kicks in at 100 degrees and the original was set for 110 I believe. Can't imagine that this will cause any problems.

Here's a couple shots of the vacuum lines:

passenger side



Passenger side top view



Drivers side top view



I also installed the new fuel pump and pump to carb fuel line. I followed where my original line went but used braided stainless fuel line here instead of the original rotted hard fuel line. I used some line clamps attached in 3 different spots (water neck, water pump, and alternator bracket) to make sure the line would stay secured properly. For now it seems to clear everything just right. I rotated the carb inlet down just a tad to clear the water neck yet still clear all the throttle linkage as well.

Here's a couple pics of the fuel line path:

from fuel pump
it doesn't contact the water tube, yet. Not sure if that would cause any problems but I could easily put a spacer in if it does.



Water pump and pulley area
everything clears great here.



Carb inlet
as of now this is how I'm going to keep it. If I notice any problems I can always switch out to a straight fitting on the carb.



I have also installed the lokar kickdown and throttle bracket on the new Holley carb. I have yet to cut the throttle cable to the proper length but will be doing so after I pull, clean up, and fix all the slop at the pedal bracket.

Here's a couple pics of the installed lokar cables:





Final thing I have gotten finished up is the bypass hose radiator hose. It is a stock bypass hose with black thermal wrap and some gates heat shrink clamps. The radiator hoses will be getting the same treatment.

Here are some pics of the bypass hose:
not all that exciting but I included them nontheless.





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Old 07-29-2012, 08:39 AM   #39
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Started clearing out the interior of the Scout in preparation of the re-wire that is coming soon. Found some rust on the floor pans but much less then I expected. Considering this truck sat in tahoe in the snow I am pretty pleased and surprised that no floor pans will need replacing. Spent yesterday wire brushing out all rust spots and coated the metal in metal etch to soak overnight. Today I still need to sand down the good paint with some 400 grit sandpaper so that the por 15 will adhere properly.

Here are some photos of before cleaning:

drivers floor pan



Passenger floor pan







Firewall





Here are some after photos:

drivers floor pan





Passenger floor pan





Firewall





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This thing is slowly but surely becoming a rust free Scout. Still a long way to go but I would say it is 75% rust free now.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:47 AM   #40
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Put por15 on the entire interior of the tub yesterday. It was a total of 2 coats plus a couple touch ups. This will eventually get sound/heat padding and carpet so I wanted as much rust protection as possible. It's the best pictures I could get considering this stuff dries like black glass.

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Drivers and passengers floor pans





Best firewall pic I could capture

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Old 07-30-2012, 09:53 AM   #41
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That looks great but I work with that por 415 alot here at my shop and in my experience por only sticks to rust it will not stick to painted surfaces or raw clean metal. It will peel off paint and and clean metal surface but there is a paint prep chemical that por also sells that willl make it adhear to other surfaces
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:57 AM   #42
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that looks great but I work with that por 415 alot here at my shop and in my experience por only sticks to rust it will not stick to painted surfaces or raw clean metal. It will peel off paint and and clean metal surface but there is a paint prep chemical that por also sells that willl make it adhear to other surfaces
I sanded the paint with 120 to get all the "gloss" off and then used the metal etch prep stuff so that it would adhere to the shiny metal. According to the por15 FAQ's it should work fine. Checked it this morning and it is all rock hard.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:26 PM   #43
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Got the steering box resealed today. I have a 3/4" input shaft but needed the 13/16" input seal kit. Jeff and the boys seem to think there are a few of these hybrids out there. Here's a link to the thread I started in the "IH only product questions" forum if you're wondering the difference.

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Got all the gunk cleaned off and painted up the box in low gloss black with the eastwood paint. Borgsen kit is waiting for the steering column clean up and paint. Pictures of the seal install came out extremely out of focus but it is a very easy job in my opinion.

Here are some pics of before and after clean and reseal:







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Old 08-02-2012, 04:00 PM   #44
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Looks very nice! I hope you're planning on changing those grade 5 mounting bolts!
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #45
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looks very nice! I hope you're planning on changing those grade 5 mounting bolts!
Good looking out. Had to special order them from osh as they don't stock grade 8 that were long enough. Need 5" bolt and all they had was 4".
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