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Old 04-25-2017, 10:07 PM   #16
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

Remind me to never again doubt the wisdom of the contributors on this forum...

https://youtu.be/sfn8d-8y8do

I made new gaskets for the adapter and the base of the carb, double thickness gasket material with a layer of sealer in between.

Got a longer idle screw, so it actually adjusts the idle...was finally able to tweak the timing with the engine idling and adjust the idle air mix.

Gotta mount the gas pedal and run the throttle cable now...bolt down the fuel pressure regulator...bolt in the seats, fix the rear view mirror...blah blah blah...

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Old 04-25-2017, 10:24 PM   #17
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Oh and lets see how it does tomorrow when it's not warmed up...
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:26 AM   #18
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

Your experience does not make sense. Sounds like the pcv valve is installed backwards. It should act like when you plugged the line earlier and it ran good. If you are experiencing anything different there is a problem with the pcv valve itself or the installation.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:34 PM   #19
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

I understand what you're saying Robert, but the pcv valve I got is threaded on one end with arrows stamped on it pointing to the threaded end saying "manifold" on it.

I think I did have additional vacuum leaks at the adapter and carb base which I resolved last night by making double thickness gaskets for both.

She's still really cold blooded but at least now it'll idle when its warmed up. I'm sure I'm not done tinkering/tweaking it.

I just went out and started it up again, it back fires a little just when it first starts but after it runs for 30 seconds or so it'll idle and doesn't backfire any more.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:42 PM   #20
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Just for grins and giggles I'm going to take apart all the brass fittings for the pcv stuff and teflon tape all the connections.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:52 PM   #21
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

Doubt leakage of threads will make any difference but can't hurt to seal them with tape.
I guess you could have had more than one leak.
Does the new pcv valve have a part number on it? There are two that look the same, the v8 one and the 4 cylinder one. The later has a much smaller idle orifice than the v8 version.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:56 PM   #22
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The part number on the box is 212518-r92

I'd have to pull it from the engine to make sure that's the right part number on the part itself.
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Old 04-28-2017, 04:47 PM   #23
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

Looks like the valve you were sold is incorrect.
From the fpm
212-518 r1 is the v8 valve.
The 152 valve is 967-397 r1

the r2 is simply a revision level id and won't effect the function of the part.
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Old 04-28-2017, 05:06 PM   #24
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Well hell...ok.

I guess I start scouring the internet again for the right part number. Thanks again for the info...

Anyone looking for a good deal on a very slightly used pcv valve for a v8 International?

Thank you for the part number, I'll keep looking.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:55 PM   #25
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Well I reached out to the vendor that sent me the pcv valve and according to his documentation that's the right part...the struggle continues I guess...

I'll keep digging, but that part number for the other pcv valve is proving to be impossible to find.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:00 AM   #26
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

The IH part numbers I gave in the post above are straight out of the early Scout parts manual. The 212 518 is listed in only one place, the v8 section. The other is listed for all of the 4 cylinders only and never in the v8 section.

It May be cheaper to go up in primary pilot jet to cover the added air from the pcv valve.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:14 AM   #27
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It seems to run ok so far after it's warmed up, but I'll see about increasing that jet size. Thanks again for all your help.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:16 AM   #28
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-willys-...ryh704&vxp=mtr

Aka, ac 1543018

should function exactly the same as the oem IH part. Calibration for 4 cylinder with small/stock cam.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:56 AM   #29
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I'll take your word for it. Ordered. Thanks for digging that up. Will let you know how it goes.
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:10 PM   #30
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Default Re: 1964 Scout 80 Weber 32/36 Carb Problems

What is your initial ignition timing set to.
It's properly set with the vacuum advance disconnected and capped on the engine side. Idle to no more than 600 rpm. I use 8 deg.
The better your vacuum the better you will shut down the PCV and better it will run.
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