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Old 01-30-2010, 05:38 PM   #1
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Default HF winch 10,000 lbs pull?

Anyone ever had a "road shock" winch? It is probably a central machine product. A 10,000lbs winch with brake is going on sale at hf for $300.00.March 12,13,14th. I know you get what you pay for but this is kind of makes me think twice.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:15 PM   #2
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Several folks around here have been using all forms of those chinee hf winches for several years now. Their "warranty" is as good as anyone's and for occasional use the price can't be beat. The electrics sold by milemarker and many others are the same chinee thing.

I have one of their 2klb. Units and it's done fine as long as you don't exceed the rating, if ya do, it pops the breaker and/or the clutch slips.

I use the hf clone of the original warn roller fairlead on my stuff, at $29.95 or less why pay $100+!!!! For day-in/day-out commercial use, I'm sure it won't hold up, but for that one time when ya really need it, it will work just fine!
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:44 PM   #3
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Thanks michael; I did a google searh and found some reviews on hf winches the results were about 80% to 85% favorable. Some were from what I would call commercial. Like moving those storage sheds around at the lumber yard and some car haulers. The biggest complaint was that they were slow but they backed that up with cooler motors and less amp draw.
I was at harbor frieght yesterday and saw it sitting there on sale for $400 when I got home and looked at the flyer that was in bag for $300 made me give it a second though.
Yes,,, 2 in one day, I hate it when that happens, it hurt but I survived

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Ron, I can testify. One week before x-mas '08 is went hooty took his unauthorized sojurn off a perfectly good, but iced over road down into a hell hole that is now forever referred to on all the maps as "hooty's holler." I was able to extract him back onto the road surface using the front mounted harbur fake tulz 8k winch, a snatch block and about 6 different purchases. It took between 3-4 hours of hard humpin' for two fat white boys as the incline was about 25 feet and fairly steep...plus those hf winches are frikkin' slowwww man! But, it did the job and that's all that counts. The first flat pull was a sharp 90 degree bend without the aid of a roller fairlead just to get the front end sucked around so that it was pointed back towards the road. Bad idea I know, but I had no alternative. I worked the absolute piss out of that poor winch and she's still got more pulls left in 'er! Hopefully nothing that extreme ever again though!
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:52 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input guys; since I don't plan on hanging off any ne mountains it might do me just fine, I have a while to think about it since the sale is not until March.

Trever, you must feel really proud to have a spot on a map named after hooty. Lol

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Here is a spec compairison:

---------------hf 10,000-----------------warn m10000
line speed
2000lb pull------6.56fpm---------------------14fmp
4000lb pull------6.23fpm----------------------9fpm
6000lb pull------4.26fpm----------------------6fpm
8000lb pull------3.28fpm----------------------4fpm
10000lb pull-----3.28fpm----------------------3fpm

looks like the hf winch is somewhat slower on the lighter pulls.
But pretty close on the heavier stuff.

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I had a new mile marker 8000#er, same as the hf. The first time I used it it failed/siezed up. When I got home I
pulled it off and put my old warn 8000 on. I now have a warn 9500. When I got the 9500, used, I gave the warn 8000 away and that person sold it to someone else, and it's still going strong. The warn 8000 was used when I got it.
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Thanks rock, I hear ya, that makes me think that quality control might be lacking. Might get a good one and might not, that would explain the reviews I have read.

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trever, you must feel really proud to have a spot on a map named after hooty. Lol

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You'd think so, but actually no, not really. Hooty paid a steep price for that honor. There's also another famous spot on the maps called "trever's trough", but that's a story for another time.
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I have had reports of the same milemarker failure mode that Mike describes!

Having sold and delt (and had to exchange under warranty) with many forms of these chinese-produced pieces of gear and power tools, I can say for a fact that there can be significant differences in the actual componentry used in stuff like this thought it appears to be identical!

For instance, when this stuff is built to a "price point", the motors alone have a specified "hourly" service life. The difference May only be in the quality of the bearings used, one set of bearings May be rated for 100 hours, the other set for 125 hours, the price difference only a few cents, but it adds up in the end! Same for the motors themselves.

If you look at say a harbor freight drill press, a delta drill press, a jet drill press, and a grizzly drill press, they all come out of the same chinese production facility and appear to be identical except for color, logos, control knobs/handles, etc. But the price spread May be over $200 for essentially identical products! You are paying for a "name" as part of that difference, but there is a difference in the actual motor specifications on all four units!

In the case of the jet and delta identical tools we sold, if either had a failure under warranty, we could not simply exchange the unit for the customer. But the harbor freight store would do an on-the-spot exchange for their units! With no hassle to the customer at all if they had their purchase receipt. So the big difference was...in addition to price,...customer service. Customer paid more for jet or delta, but received the runaround if they experienced problems after the sale!

Harbor freight in general has come a looooong way in all regards over the last three/four years and has impacted sears more than any other tool/equipment retailer!
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And I'm damn glad they did, I remember when you bought a tool that said craftsman, you were buying a tool that would last forever. I have a craftsman 6in bench vise, lifetime warranty, my hairy ass!!! Broke the screw in it. Took it back. They now only warranty quote hand tools, a vise is not considered such. So if I want it fixed I have to order the part online and pay to have it shipped to me. Cant order it or get it through the store.
So now the freaking part is gonna cost more than the damn vise did. Screw fuckin sears
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Hf offered me a 2 year extended warranty on the sander I bought the other day. That was the first time for me.

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hf offered me a 2 year extended warranty on the sander I bought the other day. That was the first time for me.

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Yep, hf has really gotten into the "f&I" business now, just like the retail car bizz! And it's gravee money for them and any other retailer that plays that game! Just another profit center.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:55 PM   #14
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Here is a very interesting article that was posted on bp about winches. Good read!
Jeep articles / general (winches in hell) - moabjeeper magazine
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