8 Simple rules for building your Scout

ihpartschad

IHPA General Manager
This list is something that I came up with on a whim. Please remember these are my opinions so take them for what they are worth keeping in mind that this is a free site......so??? :winky: some of the most improtant rules I know Jeff totally agrees with and in fact some of this is his words, but I refuse to speak for him.

1. start with your foundation. Like a house your Scout will only be a solid as your running gear and basic vehicle functions. I have seen so many scouts that look like they should be able to perform fantastically only to see them cough and sputter along when they get off camber or under load in one form or another. Safety should always come first and should figure heavily into any plans you have for the Scout. You need to remember that these vehicles were manufactured 30+ years ago. Speeds and traffic conditions were totally different than they are today. Even if it is purpose built off road only Scout, you should consider safety as your number 1 priority.
2. plan your build. Don’t just rush into a build, think about what you want to accomplish and plan it out. Ask questions, seek advice, research the web do what ever you have to, to get the information you need to make an educated decision. These things have been around a long time, chances are someone has done whatever it is that you are planning. Find out about it and learn from the mistakes and successes others have had. This will also save you time and money. A well planned build is almost always an easier more successful build than one rushed into on a whim.
3. know your limitations. This rule ties into the first two, if you are not a skilled welder don’t try to do your own spring over. Ask for help or if you have to pay for it. This should also factor into your planning stage. You should understand what you will have to pay to have done and what you can do yourself. Remember everyone has a different skill level. This is nothing to be ashamed of. It is much easier to swallow some pride and ask for help before you get to the trail than it is to break on the trail then have to beg for the help. This also applies to project completion, if you are not good at completing things it May be better and money well spent to pay someone to do it so the project doesn’t end up in the scrap heap.
4. build to the 80/20 rule. Put the focus of the build on what your Scout is going to be doing 80% of the time. Remember no vehicle can do everything. If you plan on using your Scout for strict rock crawling duties then build accordingly. If it will be a weekend warrior/boat tower, build accordingly. The builds and parts used for these two builds will be entirely different. Just try not to forget the 20%
5. the domino effect. Understand that when you start almost any kind of project on your Scout you are almost certainly going to find that while you intended to replace part a only to find out that part b is also bad, and you can’t replace part b without also replacing part c, and since you are already this far you May as well replace part d and f while your there. Don’t say “I will replace it later”, it never fails that “later” ends up being much sooner than you thought.
6. the can of worms syndrome. Remember these scouts are 30+ years old and whether you have a low mileage museum piece or have a been run hard everyday since they rolled off the assembly line, the parts are either wore out or rotten and you won’t know what you have to replace unit you start working on it. The best way to plan for this is to figure that everything that you are going to be working on will need to be replaced everything!! Even rear end housings are usually bad. A good estimate is 8 out of every 10 housings is bent and needs to be straightened to prevent bearing burnout. This type of issue is what you get into when you crack open your can of worms no matter what part you are working on.
7. the quadruple figure. This is probably the most important and most overlooked rule. Take all the factors above, sit down and carefully figure out a budget for the build. Then quadruple it, with today’s inflation and all of the factors that I mentioned above this is very realistic figure. No build I have ever seen or been a part of has landed on budget. Not even close. The only difference between those that are happy with the end result and those that aren’t, is how prepared the owner is for the actual cost of the build even if you are building it yourself.
8. love thy Scout. Remember this is supposed to be fun and a way to escape the daily grind. Have fun with it, and keep everything in perspective and your build will be infinitely more rewarding.
 
Love the quadruple figure, as it is going to come true once I get my axles geared up and a warn overdrive. Time has definitely taught me that even if part a doesn't need to really be replaced, replace it anyway so you won't have to later. :nono:
 
Your rules sound very applicable to me.. Im a so-called disable vet who sits locked away in his house day after day and figured I could use a hobby.. So I searched the entire western united states until I found a sixties Scout that I liked and seemed to be close to original with a clean motor.. Although its got a small lift and some aftermarket wheels.. I found it up on a lot in seattle.. They were asking 6k and I got it for five which I thought since I got them down a grand I was getting a good deal.. But I have no idea what I actually have to tell you the truth.. Interior is great although drivers window doesnt work and none of the guages do either.. The body is straight with no major rust, just a small corner near the drivers side rear wheel.. The motor fires up great but you get a lot of gas fumes with the top on it recirculating back into the cab through the rear window that doesnt latch correctly.. This May only be because there are no pipes coming off of either muffler but im not certain there isnt anything else going on.. To be honest I cant even tell which engine this has.. It says 8 cylinder v8 near the International logo but is this the 302 or something different? This is a 1967 and I think the 345 went into later models right? Anyway, I liked your rules because they are so fitting to me.. I will be putting money into this thing every month til its something that I could use around town when I want to get out of the house but should I decide to go camping or something it could go through/up/over more than just the grocery store speedbumps.. Maybe, if you have some time you could list some basics.. Like where I should first begin looking for troubled areas on my rig or what my priorities should be in replacing parts.. I dont know if you still use this forum or if im typing for no reason but I hope to hear something back, even if its telling me to get lost :) thank you for your time.. Kenny
 
Kenny,

this whole forum is dedicated to exactly the questions you are asking. Please use it and ask all the questions you want/need too. We are for sure here to help. IH Parts America is a perfect place to source parts and get the information you need. Good luck, I would get those tail pipes fixed before driving it much. Not good for the brain cells. You are in the right part of the country as well. You need to hook up with the IHSTO group. They have a fourm on this board.
 
That was fast! Thanks for the input/help.. This is a really cool forum/site.. Had no idea all this was ever going on.. Much appreciated
 
This list is something that I came up with on a whim. Please remember these are my opinions so take them for what they are worth keeping in mind that this is a free site......so??? :winky: some of the most improtant rules I know Jeff totally agrees with and in fact some of this is his words, but I refuse to speak for him.

1. start with your foundation. Like a house your Scout will only be a solid as your running gear and basic vehicle functions. I have seen so many scouts that look like they should be able to perform fantastically only to see them cough and sputter along when they get off camber or under load in one form or another. Safety should always come first and should figure heavily into any plans you have for the Scout. You need to remember that these vehicles were manufactured 30+ years ago. Speeds and traffic conditions were totally different than they are today. Even if it is purpose built off road only Scout, you should consider safety as your number 1 priority.
2. plan your build. Don’t just rush into a build, think about what you want to accomplish and plan it out. Ask questions, seek advice, research the web do what ever you have to, to get the information you need to make an educated decision. These things have been around a long time, chances are someone has done whatever it is that you are planning. Find out about it and learn from the mistakes and successes others have had. This will also save you time and money. A well planned build is almost always an easier more successful build than one rushed into on a whim.
3. know your limitations. This rule ties into the first two, if you are not a skilled welder don’t try to do your own spring over. Ask for help or if you have to pay for it. This should also factor into your planning stage. You should understand what you will have to pay to have done and what you can do yourself. Remember everyone has a different skill level. This is nothing to be ashamed of. It is much easier to swallow some pride and ask for help before you get to the trail than it is to break on the trail then have to beg for the help. This also applies to project completion, if you are not good at completing things it May be better and money well spent to pay someone to do it so the project doesn’t end up in the scrap heap.
4. build to the 80/20 rule. Put the focus of the build on what your Scout is going to be doing 80% of the time. Remember no vehicle can do everything. If you plan on using your Scout for strict rock crawling duties then build accordingly. If it will be a weekend warrior/boat tower, build accordingly. The builds and parts used for these two builds will be entirely different. Just try not to forget the 20%
5. the domino effect. Understand that when you start almost any kind of project on your Scout you are almost certainly going to find that while you intended to replace part a only to find out that part b is also bad, and you can’t replace part b without also replacing part c, and since you are already this far you May as well replace part d and f while your there. Don’t say “I will replace it later”, it never fails that “later” ends up being much sooner than you thought.
6. the can of worms syndrome. Remember these scouts are 30+ years old and whether you have a low mileage museum piece or have a been run hard everyday since they rolled off the assembly line, the parts are either wore out or rotten and you won’t know what you have to replace unit you start working on it. The best way to plan for this is to figure that everything that you are going to be working on will need to be replaced everything!! Even rear end housings are usually bad. A good estimate is 8 out of every 10 housings is bent and needs to be straightened to prevent bearing burnout. This type of issue is what you get into when you crack open your can of worms no matter what part you are working on.
7. the quadruple figure. This is probably the most important and most overlooked rule. Take all the factors above, sit down and carefully figure out a budget for the build. Then quadruple it, with today’s inflation and all of the factors that I mentioned above this is very realistic figure. No build I have ever seen or been a part of has landed on budget. Not even close. The only difference between those that are happy with the end result and those that aren’t, is how prepared the owner is for the actual cost of the build even if you are building it yourself.
8. love thy Scout. Remember this is supposed to be fun and a way to escape the daily grind. Have fun with it, and keep everything in perspective and your build will be infinitely more rewarding.
I know this post is old, but appreciate the thoughts that went into it. #5...!
 
I know this post is old, but appreciate the thoughts that went into it. #5...!
He talked about Inflation 16 years ago... When you could buy scouts all day long for $500-$1000 and spare used parts were plentiful...

Guess he never thought of the Inflation of the 2022-2024 Years back then hahaha.
 
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